Help identifying tractor

Appleattic

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Hello. I am new to this, but came across an older IH tractor that I would like to buy and restore. Was not able to get much info except this photo. Cany anyone identify the year / model, and give me an idea of what to offer? Engine looks complete, but I don"t know if it is frozen.
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Get the VIN number and you can look it up from this website. On the left side of the forums page under Research & Info.
 
It's not a 9 series due to the three lug front wheels and rear wheel weight.

It appears to be a W-6. Maybe an early SW-6.
 
It's not worth much without a muffler. If you buy it, would you mind sending me the wheel weights.
 
It's a W-6 or an early Super W-6.

The tractor is complete, but if it's been sitting out with no cover over the exhaust, in Colorado, it certainly filled the engine with water, and probably froze, and probably cracked the block.

I would not pay more than $500 for it. It's probably a parts tractor, even though it's complete.

The tires are all shot. There's about $2000.

If the engine is salvageable it'll take another $1500 or more to rebuild.

Hopefully nothing else major is wrong with it, though it rarely is.
 
It is a McCormick or McCormick Deering W-6. A Super W-6 would have side rails rather than the bathtub. Look for a serial number to get the year. If the serial number is missing look for casting numbers and the engine number. Does the engine turn or is it frozen? It looks like a relatively straight tractor.

Harold H
 
If no parts are changed from new I think its one of the roughly last 200 or less W6 made, or a early super W6. If its a early SW6 less of those were made than the later style. Think its going to have disc brakes either way. Late W6 with disc brakes would be low production.
 
Looks like someone set a rock over the exhaust pipe. I wonder if this was done when it was first parked or a few years later. Even if it had something covering it, depending on how long it had been sitting there, its about 50/50 whether it is stuck or not.
 
(quoted from post at 13:46:50 05/05/10) A Super W-6 would have side rails rather than the bathtub.

Super W-6 tractors built in 1952 had the bathtub chassis. It wasn't until they went to "Stage II" that they switched to frame rails.
 
D. Slater,

Last W-6's and Super W-6's had side rails like a M rather than cast bathub frame.

Harold H
 
Thanks for all the comments. I will try to get back to the yard this weekend and get a serial number. I assume there is a mfg plate on the bell housing or side of the engine? I will also see if I can rock the engine and see if it is frozen.

Did the W6 or SW6 have any inherent weaknesses? Is this a good unit to rebuild/restore? I don"t plan to work it much, maybe pull a trailer from time to time getting firewood or haul dirt, nothing heavy-duty.
 
Appleattic,

The W-6 is a very tough tractor with no inhearant weaknesses that I know of. It is great for open field pulling type work but cannot be used for row crop work, which should work fine for anything you want to use it for. That tractor looks very straight and, if you don't find major engine problems, it should be a resonably easy restoration. Even if the engine is stuck, looking at the surroundings, it may be easy to free up and require no engine work. A large portion of the W-6 parts are the same as the M parts and are easy to find. I would go for it.

Harold H

(quoted from post at 15:05:13 05/06/10) Thanks for all the comments. I will try to get back to the yard this weekend and get a serial number. I assume there is a mfg plate on the bell housing or side of the engine? I will also see if I can rock the engine and see if it is frozen.

Did the W6 or SW6 have any inherent weaknesses? Is this a good unit to rebuild/restore? I don"t plan to work it much, maybe pull a trailer from time to time getting firewood or haul dirt, nothing heavy-duty.
 
Harold, Just looked up the numbers. SW6 serial # 501 to 3950 used the bathtub, or the same frame as a W6. Suprised you haven't saw one.
Looks like tractor in the picture has the M type hubs made thicker at the rim bolting area. If the hubs are original IH started making them thicker at end of 1951 or beginning of 52.
First hubs of that type installed on a W6 was starting serial # 45873. Think that would be feb. 52 and getting near the end of W6 production numbers. Greater chance its a SW6 number amount wise, if front cast wheels are original.
 
As dry as it is in western Colorado, the rock on the exhaust would probably be enough to protect it if it's been there since it's been parked. Still might be stuck, but I'd bet not bad. I'd be more worried about if it had anti-freeze or had been drained.
 
I apologise for the mis information on the bathtub vs frame rails information. I was going just on memory which is not as solid as it once was.

Harold H

(quoted from post at 17:18:09 05/06/10) Harold, Just looked up the numbers. SW6 serial # 501 to 3950 used the bathtub, or the same frame as a W6. Suprised you haven't saw one.
Looks like tractor in the picture has the M type hubs made thicker at the rim bolting area. If the hubs are original IH started making them thicker at end of 1951 or beginning of 52.
First hubs of that type installed on a W6 was starting serial # 45873. Think that would be feb. 52 and getting near the end of W6 production numbers. Greater chance its a SW6 number amount wise, if front cast wheels are original.
 

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