condensor part#

Could someone help me with a napa part# for a condensor for a 53 Super C with 12v bat. ballast resistor and 6v coil.

Thank you.

ASSUMING you have an IH distributor (rather than an aftermarket unit, probably a Delco), the CIH part number is 353903R92.

NAPA-Online shows that interchanges to NAPA # ECH IH200.

You can also upgrade to a 12v coil that does not need the ballast resisitor.
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Condensers DO vary in capacity value by application.

The part # I posted is for use with the original coil.

If using another coil, for the best chance of good breaker point life it's a good idea to get a condensor intended for use with the coil you are using.

(quoted from post at 17:23:43 01/09/10) Condensers DO vary in capacity value by application.

The part # I posted is for use with the original coil.

If using another coil, for the best chance of good breaker point life it's a good idea to get a condensor intended for use with the coil you are using.

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Everything you said is true. However, that condenser--both the CIH and NAPA versions--is the listed condenser for the IH distributor on 12V C-123 engines as well as 6V. The difference between 6V and 12V does not mean much to a capacitor (very unlike coils). I have been using the IH200 condenser with a NAPA IC13 coil with ICR13 external resistor and, more recently, with the IC14SB coil and no external resistor on my 12V 140. Probably about 20 years on each setup. I believe these are correct combinations and so does my NAPA guy. Are we wrong?

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(quoted from post at 17:23:43 01/09/10) Condensers DO vary in capacity value by application.

The part # I posted is for use with the original coil.

If using another coil, for the best chance of good breaker point life it's a good idea to get a condensor intended for use with the coil you are using.

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Everything you said is true. However, that condenser--both the CIH and NAPA versions--is the listed condenser for the IH distributor on 12V C-123 engines as well as 6V. The difference between 6V and 12V does not mean much to a capacitor (very unlike coils). I have been using the IH200 condenser with a NAPA IC13 coil with ICR13 external resistor and, more recently, with the IC14SB coil and no external resistor on my 12V 140. Probably about 20 years on each setup. I believe these are correct combinations and so does my NAPA guy. Are we wrong?

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If you have had good results for 20 years, I sure wouldn't worry now. Fact is, they will run even if condenser size is off by 100:1, but as Bob said, "for good point life", the correct value is best. Problem is, how do you determine that when using non-OEM components? It would take a long time of observation & incremental increasing/decreasing condenser values to find the sweet spot where buildup/crater changes from one side to the other, then back off a bit. Not practical.

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If you have had good results for 20 years, I sure wouldn't worry now. Fact is, they will run even if condenser size is off by 100:1, but as Bob said, "for good point life", the correct value is best. Problem is, how do you determine that when using non-OEM components? It would take a long time of observation & incremental increasing/decreasing condenser values to find the sweet spot where buildup/crater changes from one side to the other, then back off a bit. Not practical.

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But I am NOT talking about just non-OEM. The ONLY IH condenser I have ever found for the C-123 with IH distributor 6V or 12 V battery ignition is 353903R92 that crosses to the IH200 at NAPA. As far as I know, IH thought it was 'correct' for both the 6V and 12V setups and their respective coils. I don't mean to be combative, but if there IS a 'correct' IHC capacitor for a 12V C-123 (other than 353903R92), I'd like to find out. I admit I did my research quite some time ago, and things may have changed or I may have had dummies at the IH and/or NAPA parts desks. This is also the only condenser currently listed on the CIH site for several other C-series gas engines with similar IH distributors. I am just wondering if IH simply decided that condenser was "correct enough" when they switched to factory 12V in 1963 or if I missed something all these years.

My points have always outlasted the distributor caps, which is the ignition component that always fails first for me (IHC or NAPA).

I did not intend to question your condenser as the correct replacement. My reference to 'non-OEM' was intended to refer to the IC14 coil in place of the IH coil. Then one might? question the the proper value of the condenser for the IC14 versus the proper value for the IH coil. Your long time success would lead me to conclude that you need not be concerned. I really do not believe this is critical. Yes, as Bob said, they are not all the same value, and they are not, but in my experience in both measuring them & observations in books/manuals, they don't stray far from one another.

Cool. I was just trying to figure out if there was a better choice. For the record, I think the IH200 condenser works just fine with the IC14SB coil and the NAPA CS1600 point set in a 12V C-123. I live 3 miles from a NAPA and 25 from the last CIH dealer in NJ, so NAPA is my first choice. The only problem I ever have with the point setup is dropping the blankety-blank screw on the dirt floor of my tractor shed. Thanks for the reply.