the tires on my super m are loaded and people say that the fluid in them causes the rims to rust out really fast. i was thinking about draining the fluid out and just putting air back in. how much weight does the fluid actually add? can i refill them with windsheild washer fluid or should i just go straight air?
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It will only cause the rim to rust IF the tube leaks. You can drain them out refill. But where ever you drain the chloride? off to will not grow anything.
Weight depends on tire size.
I believe a 13.6x38 it adds about 800# per tire.
The tube can be refilled with what ever liquid you choose. But make sure it is something readily available. In case of a puncture.
Weight depends on tire size.
I believe a 13.6x38 it adds about 800# per tire.
The tube can be refilled with what ever liquid you choose. But make sure it is something readily available. In case of a puncture.
What are you using the tractor for? If its only for light use house I'd put air in the tires. All the extra weight puts more wear on everything from the tires to the brakes to the axles and transmission while using more fuel.
If you are using it to plow then refilling with a fluid of you choice might be a better choice.
If you are using it to plow then refilling with a fluid of you choice might be a better choice.
ryanwheelock
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Tire shop across the street from my muffler shop has a big tank of beet juice they use to refill loaded tires so that they dont rust out. The beet juice wont freeze.
ScottyHOMeY
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If they're filled with calcium chloride, yes it's corrosive, but only when in contact with air.
In good tubes, no problem. With the right equipment and somebody who knows what they're doing, tubeless tires can be filled with CaCl so that it completely covers the inside of the rim -- again, no problem with a good bead and proper inflation to keep any surface in contact with the CaCl from coming into contact with air.
If you do decide to drain, make sure that a through job of cleaning is done on the outside to clean up ANY that slopped onto metal. If tubeless, dismount the tire and clean the inside, as well.
To many folks, it's worth the price of having a dealer come out and take care of it. Unless you have a dirt driveway where you want either to a) kill the grass and weeds coming up in it or b) dampen the dust, there's no real good way to dispose of the stuff without killing all the vegetation around it.
In good tubes, no problem. With the right equipment and somebody who knows what they're doing, tubeless tires can be filled with CaCl so that it completely covers the inside of the rim -- again, no problem with a good bead and proper inflation to keep any surface in contact with the CaCl from coming into contact with air.
If you do decide to drain, make sure that a through job of cleaning is done on the outside to clean up ANY that slopped onto metal. If tubeless, dismount the tire and clean the inside, as well.
To many folks, it's worth the price of having a dealer come out and take care of it. Unless you have a dirt driveway where you want either to a) kill the grass and weeds coming up in it or b) dampen the dust, there's no real good way to dispose of the stuff without killing all the vegetation around it.
If it has chloride in it you can taste it, it will be very salty, if it has chloride in it and has ever leaked out with a flat tire the damage is already done once it gets on the wheel it starts eating away at it. unless it was completely washed off . i live in the south and me and my father do tractor flats in the field and we use antifreeze and water it doesn't get cold enough here to freeze hard it may slush a little but never had any trouble in 20 years of doing it
Hugh MacKay
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jdetig: If you don't have leaks calcium chloride will not rust your rims. Change the screw in valve stem every 5 years and rims will last 50 years. That is right, I have 4 - 50 year old rims that have had chloride in tires since new.
Hugh MacKay
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redblood: That is a bunch of bull feathers, it will burn off grass or any vegitation it touches, but it will not stop something new from growing tomorrow.
I lost all the chloride from a 20.8x38 in one spot in middle of a corn field in May. When the corn came up, one could not see the spot, nor did we at any time during the growing season.
I lost all the chloride from a 20.8x38 in one spot in middle of a corn field in May. When the corn came up, one could not see the spot, nor did we at any time during the growing season.
In a 13.6X38 tubeless tire if the fluid is above the level of the rim inside they hold 110 gallons. That times whatever a gallon of disolved calcium chloride weighs. Estimate 8 pounds per gallon. This liquid does not evaporate much if at all. I had some splash on to the shop wall one time and the droplets were still liquid to the touch a year later.
In a 13.6X38 tubeless tire if the fluid is above the level of the rim inside they hold 110 gallons. That times whatever a gallon of disolved calcium chloride weighs. Estimate 8 pounds per gallon. This liquid does not evaporate much if at all. I had some splash on to the shop wall one time and the droplets were still liquid to the touch a year later.
Beet juice. David...................
http://www.rimguard.biz/Documentation/HydroFlationTable_AGTires.pdf
http://www.rimguard.biz/Documentation/HydroFlationTable_AGTires.pdf
charles todd
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A 14.9x38 holds 55 gallons. 55*8 (water) = 440 lbs. A 13.8x38 holds 47, I think. Two tires with 55 gallons each will be 110 gallons and 880 lbs.
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Hugh MacKay
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Charles: That sounds a lot more reasonable than some of the earlier quotes. I can remember draining those 13.6x38 etc. into 45 Imperial gallon drum 55 US. Usually held most of it, ocasionally one would have a couple of 5 gallon pails as backup. I don't think there is a lot more than 100 Imperial gallons in a 20.8x38.
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