OT: For Gordo: Interesting squadron history piece

Mike CA

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Gordo, if I remember correctly, you flew Skyhawks in Nam? I've been reading up on some of up (upcoming... I'll report aboard in November) squadron's history. They fly the Skyraider at one point, and I found the following:
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Tiolet-Bomb.jpg


In October 1965, CDR Clarence J. Stoddard, Executive Officer of VA-25 "Fist of the Fleet", flying an A-1H Skyraider, NE/572 "Paper Tiger II" from Carrier Air Wing Two aboard USS Midway carried a special bomb to the North Vietnamese in commemoration of the 6-millionth pound of ordnance dropped. This bomb was unique because of the type... it was a toilet!

The following is an account of this event, courtesy of Clint Johnson, Captain, USNR Ret. Captain Johnson was one of the two VA-25 A-1 Skyraider pilots credited with shooting down a MiG-17 on June 20, 1965.

I was a pilot in VA-25 on the 1965 Vietnam cruise. 572 was flown by CDR C. W. "Bill" Stoddard. His wingman in 577 (which was my assigned airplane) was LCDR Robin Bacon, who had a wing station mounted movie camera (the only one remaining in the fleet from WWII).

The flight was a Dixie Station strike (South Vietnam) going to the Delta. When they arrived in the target area and CDR Stoddard was reading the ordnance list to the FAC, he ended with "and one code name Sani-flush".

The FAC couldn't believe it and joined up to see it. It was dropped in a dive with LCDR Bacon flying tight wing position to film the drop. When it came off, it turned hole to the wind and almost struck his airplane.

It made a great ready room movie. The FAC said that it whistled all the way down.

The toilet was a damaged toilet, which was going to be thrown overboard. One of our plane captains rescued it and the ordnance crew made a rack, tailfins and nose fuse for it. Our checkers maintained a position to block the view of the Air Boss and the Captain while the aircraft was taxiing forward to the catapult.

Just as it was being shot off we got a 1MC message from the bridge, "Wh! at th e hell was that on 572's right wing?"

There were a lot of jokes with air intelligence about germ warfare. I wish I had saved the movie film."

CDR Stoddard was later killed while flying 572 in Oct 1966. He was hit by three SAMs over Vinh.

Some [color=#0040FF:ac07afb617]video[/color:ac07afb617] of the launch.
 
(quoted from post at 01:01:38 06/28/09) Gordo, if I remember correctly, you flew Skyhawks in Nam? I've been reading up on some of up (upcoming... I'll report aboard in November) squadron's history. They fly the Skyraider at one point, and I found the following:
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Tiolet-Bomb.jpg


In October 1965, CDR Clarence J. Stoddard, Executive Officer of VA-25 "Fist of the Fleet", flying an A-1H Skyraider, NE/572 "Paper Tiger II" from Carrier Air Wing Two aboard USS Midway carried a special bomb to the North Vietnamese in commemoration of the 6-millionth pound of ordnance dropped. This bomb was unique because of the type... it was a toilet!

The following is an account of this event, courtesy of Clint Johnson, Captain, USNR Ret. Captain Johnson was one of the two VA-25 A-1 Skyraider pilots credited with shooting down a MiG-17 on June 20, 1965.

I was a pilot in VA-25 on the 1965 Vietnam cruise. 572 was flown by CDR C. W. "Bill" Stoddard. His wingman in 577 (which was my assigned airplane) was LCDR Robin Bacon, who had a wing station mounted movie camera (the only one remaining in the fleet from WWII).

The flight was a Dixie Station strike (South Vietnam) going to the Delta. When they arrived in the target area and CDR Stoddard was reading the ordnance list to the FAC, he ended with "and one code name Sani-flush".

The FAC couldn't believe it and joined up to see it. It was dropped in a dive with LCDR Bacon flying tight wing position to film the drop. When it came off, it turned hole to the wind and almost struck his airplane.

It made a great ready room movie. The FAC said that it whistled all the way down.

The toilet was a damaged toilet, which was going to be thrown overboard. One of our plane captains rescued it and the ordnance crew made a rack, tailfins and nose fuse for it. Our checkers maintained a position to block the view of the Air Boss and the Captain while the aircraft was taxiing forward to the catapult.

Just as it was being shot off we got a 1MC message from the bridge, "Wh! at th e hell was that on 572's right wing?"

There were a lot of jokes with air intelligence about germ warfare. I wish I had saved the movie film."

CDR Stoddard was later killed while flying 572 in Oct 1966. He was hit by three SAMs over Vinh.

Some [color=#0040FF:c07b33c016]video[/color:c07b33c016] of the launch.
1ST, verify that there were any A1-H Skyraiders flown by US military forces in 1965 in Vietnam.............I don't expect verification.
Well crow eating time, I guess! Wikipedia says they were there!
 
Wikipedia can be a ficticious source. I trust Navy history.

http://www.csfwp.navy.mil/vfa-25/History.htm
 
Lots of Spads flew in VN. USAF used them for SAR. Call signs "Sandy" They couls carry tons of ordnance and had really long time on station.
USN stopped fly the single seat version in 68, but had a 4 seat EW model that flew into the 70's. We called them "Crowd Killer"
I flew Crusaders and Phantom II. Here's my Christmas gift to Ho Chi Minh, Dec 1971

Gordo
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(quoted from post at 03:03:44 06/28/09) Wikipedia can be a ficticious source. I trust Navy history.

http://www.csfwp.navy.mil/vfa-25/History.htm

Very interesting, Mike. It really seems strange that they would have stayed in service that long after the jets. Different fuel, different, logistics, support in many ways. Yes, I know Wikipedia as well as Snopes can be wrong, but I will use them for a quick spot & if important dig deeper.
Thanks for the link.
 
They stayed in service as ground support aircraft
for two reasons:

1. Low stall speed, so "low and slow" passes
could be made.

2. Very long loiter time.

Both capabilities that jets couldn't match then,
and can't equal now. The A-10 Warthog comes close
tho.
 

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