$5500 C

Between Dad and I, we own about 10 tractors, alot are bigger than the Super C, some are rarer, some seem more glamorous...but job for job and pound for pound it's the handiest, toughest tractor we have (lotsa Div 1 trophies in the shop belong to her) and it is the LAST tractor either one of us would get rid of if we had to part with all of 'em but 1! ...but $5500 (the one on photo ads)??????? It is nice, it does have a widefront (means something to some guys, but I don't like needing a football field to turn a tractor around.) That means it is worth more on the market than the JD 70? The Super M? The Super H?
...oh must be because it's "red"!
Whay would someone add that to their ad? '51 wasn't a white demo year...I MIGHT have seen a yellow C once, and a guy near me has one painted green and yellow as a joke, but I guess he thinks that "red" paint makes it more valuable.
Even here in Upstate, NY where tractors are expensive...the BEST Super C will only bring about $2500 and a straight C is a lesser (not much lesser, but it shows up on the track if everyone is truly stock. Geez!

Could be the trailer it's on and the truck pulling it all is included! David............

hehe! Didn't think of that...truck better be included, 'cause the tractor and that trailer are still at least a couple grand short of what ya should get for $5500!

I'm of a mind that an owner can price his property however he chooses. Sure, it's more than most (if not all) people will pay. We all know how quickly one can get too much money into a tractor. I'm sure he based his price on his expenditures. One of the good things about free markets is our ability to price and buy as we choose.

Lets just add up what a SuperC/200 could be worth. Assuming you bought one for say $1500. If it needed tires and rims front and rear. Engine overhaul, radiator rebuild, hydratouch rebuild, brake rebuild, front and rear seals with new bearings in the front. some replacement of sheet metal or repair, new steering wheel, new seat and a quality paint job.

Tractor $1500
rebuild C123 engine $1000
rear tires/tubs/rims $1000
front tires/rims $500
front/rear seals $100
radiator rebuild $100
Rebuild seat assy $100
New Seat $100
New Steering wheel $75
Rebuild hydratouch $100
replace/rebuild sheet metal $300
quality prep work/paint job $500

That all totals 5375 and does not include any of my labor. This is what I have into my Farmall 200. Now not everyones interpretation of a restored is the same as mine. But If someone were to offer me 6K for this tractor I would not take it.

RR

I am aware of everything you said...do all but the machine (engine) work on most of the tractors we have restored, have way too much money in most of them, (turned down $7500 for our JD70 at a pull once)BUT...
...and if you are as experienced as it sounds, you realize that the value of any given tractor (especially the ones that are so common you trip on them everyday) hits a ceiling eventually, no matter how nice you make it or how much you put in it! We have seen this with N series Fords for years as they seem to be a favorite of car restorers who don"t realize it"s not like restoring you "70 Dodge Challenger.
Bottom line is in realtiy, the nicest, rarest C (maybe a "50 white demo) in better than show room condition is not worth more than $3000 max!
...also, if most people are gonna pay $1500 for a C, it had better only have a fraction of the problems you listed.
The difference between you, me and the seller of that C is we know we put too much in our tractors, and we aren"t insulting anyone"s intelligence by trying to sell them for what we have in them plus...unless that is your C, then GOOD LUCK!

The C you describe above is a $200-300 parts tractor!

I agree...I'm not trying to make it illegal to ask wayyyyy too much for your own tractor...I was just pointing out something ridiculous...at least he didn't tell us it is "rare" or "very rare" like so many do.

If anyone prices a Super C at $1,000,000 and someone else buys it or that price who is the fool? certainely not the seller!MTF

Intersting discussion.

"I'm of a mind that an owner can price his property however he chooses."

Spot on, Rick. There are sellers out there, though, that don't quite get that, while that is true, they can expect it to remain their property if their price is too high.

I didn't go to his ad but, from the pic below, it looks like he did a first-rate job on the paint. If he did the mechanical work to the same level, yep, it's a nice tractor. But he's got it priced in a funny range.

On the lower end of the fair-price range you have buyers who will come up with a price for a working tractor. Even with the premium they might be willing to pay for it being restored to a mechanically sound and cosmetically pleasing condition, the costs of getting the tractor to that point will often exceed the end value (price) to this kind of buyer while still turning wrenches, and before the first quart of paint has been bought. This is not even factoring in the value of the time of the person doing the work.

On the other extreme, there are the folks out there who send tractors out ( a few do their own work) for a first rate, I-defy-the-correct-police-to-pick-it-apart restoration. Those cost megabucks, far more than he's asking. He's priced too low for that crowd. They'd knock a thousand bucks off their offer at the git-go just for the black starter, and many of them likely would not inquire at all becasue they want to buy it with the job all done, not something that they'd have to pay to have fixed.

[b:b730a40e7c]Hi,
Honestly a nice Super C would bring that kind of money here. Especially on an auction sale. I have a 1952 Super C I paid $1000 for in Montana. New rubber, new rear rims, new engine and new clutch. I thought I got a good deal on it. That same tractor here would have brought 3000-4000. The last C I saw sell on a sale went for 3500 and it had been repainted, had one new rear tire and the widefront was totally messed up.
Best
Ken[/b:b730a40e7c]

I repaint starters and generators RED. Have I been doing it wrong??

Hi Farmall Folks,

It all boils down to price and demand. The tractor sure looks pretty from here. If it is parade ready, and has the (2) point fast hitch, a plow/harrow, and if I was in the need there wouldn't be any question of me making a purchase.

Bob

Valid point, however.....value or worth of an item is ONLY determined by the buyer and seller reaching an agreement and not by our speculating. It's an interesting debate to have, and we see them here all the time. I'm sure you have a nice 70, but I'm sure we can agree that if you put it in the photo ads here for $7000.00 it would not be long before a thread similar to this one appeared over on the green forum. That particular day, that tractor was worth $7000.00 to him and worth something more than that to you. There will never be a day that a Super C will be worth 5500 or a 70 worth 7000 to me, but thats just me. In the grand scheme of things, it really isnt that far of a reach to see some who has no interest in working on a tractor, but wants one to drive in a parade paying that kind of money for either tractor.

I like starters and generators black. Also dist and coil. Not saying it right. Its my tractor and thats the way like it. I don't build em to sell. I build em cause I like em. Bernie Steffen