Farmall H, what jobs did they do on the farm?

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I was wondering what types of jobs did the Farmall H do on the farm when it was the only tractor on the farm? What size farm would it have been used on? Im guessing that the H could be used to fill a silo running the right size enslige cutter, is that possible or run a threshing machine?
 
The Farmall H could handle a 100a farm......now this was back in the 40's.

Filling silo belt driving the blower would be a bit much, but a Farmall M could handle it.....

The H pulled 2 14" plow and a 7' foot disk....2row corn planter.....

A 50T hay bailer (with engine)....

A loader.....

A very handy second tractor along with a Farmall M ........Don
 

That's what I was thinking! And often they still have uses.

But as Don L C noted, an H would be a bit small on heavy belt work. Perhaps a small silo blower would be doable, just like a small thresher - I'd bet a couple guys [nicely, not erratic or crosswise] feeding around 24" thresher would be fine.
 
We farmed 880A w/4-H's when I was a kid in HS in the late '50's. One of them was under a "bridge style" farmhand loader all the time, as it took a lot to take it off. The other 3 did everything necessary on the farm. In our part of the world, you could pull 2-16's, but it still took a long time to plow a quarter. We also used to do custom combining with an A6 Case pull type combine. (My $0.02 worth. jal-SD)
 
We used it for plowing, disking, mowing, baling, combining, sawing wood and hauling & spreading manure. We were having the corn silage chopped
in the field before we got the H. We used a 10-20
on the blower, but when we tried the H it wouldn't handle the blower very well so the man with the chopper swapped his M to the blower and used our H to pull the chopper. They should've never got rid of the 10-20. I doubt if it brought very back in 1950. We used a C for cultivating and raking. My brother and I used it for plowing out the potatoes too. Too bad I couldn't get those tractors to milk those cows. Hal
 
eld is right on, on a typical size farm in the 40's and 50's a H could do it all, just took a little time, i grew up with a C for chores and light stuff, and a regular M for the bigger things, they were the only tractors on the farm until 1969, when a big orange thing followed my uncle home one day, lol, i think its still there and used too
 
I use my Farmall H for most of my jobs around here. I use it on my #30 loader and it works very well. I also use it to mow with the 25-V sickle mower. I use it to pull a trailer to haul wood. I use the belt pulley to start the JD tractors if they won't start. We have 23 acres of land and we have 13 tractors. I also take my H to tractor shows.

Andy
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Mowing, raking, cultivating, plowing, PTO work (auger, etc.), small loader, and just about anything else you can think of. With the right size equipment, an H can do anything. I believe IH recommended them for a 160 acre farm back when they came out. I wouldn't have much problem farming that much with my H.
 
The H was an ok small tractor for small tasks, but I have found the weak point of the H is with the center hubs that connect the wheel to the bar axles. They are WEAK and they break if you try to do very much on the farm with them.
 
As long as the bolts are kept tight on the wheels, they should not break. If the bolts are loose, the clamps can break from the rim wobbling around on the hub.
 
We farmed 320 acres of crop land with an H and a Z moline for several years. The H being the most reliable
 
(quoted from post at 17:53:31 09/22/08) The H was an ok small tractor for small tasks, but I have found the weak point of the H is with the center hubs that connect the wheel to the bar axles. They are WEAK and they break if you try to do very much on the farm with them.

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I've broken two - one was due to the bolts being loose and rusted so I couldn't tighten it. The second one I overtightened one of the bolts and cracked the wedge, then a couple years later I was pulling the snot out of my H and it let go... If kept in good shape, tight, etc. I don't think they would break under normal use.

I've seen a few broken in half from getting rough with a loader...
 
Andy obviously your not a farmer. Nice thought though. Would only take you a month to plow your farm then you could start discing Hope you have a long growing season.
 
After reading your post again, I notice you are talking about the rear hubs, I thought you meant the front hubs. I've never had one break or ever seen one broken, until I saw Steven's picture of his.
 
(quoted from post at 18:39:50 09/22/08) Andy obviously your not a farmer. Nice thought though. Would only take you a month to plow your farm then you could start discing Hope you have a long growing season.
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After looking at my book again "The Farmall Family" it states that the H is the ideal size for an average farm of 160 to 200 acres... And yes, I could easily farm 160 acres with my H. Book also states that it will cultivate up to 35 acres of corn per day...

Even if I only got 15 acres done per day, it would only take 11 days to complete putting in a crop. And of course since the H is about the most popular tractor (highest production numbers - over 400,000) obviously it must be good for something.

And well, I sure am a farmer - born and raised on a farm, go back every chance I get to work on the farm and usually put in most of the crop. I also do most of the maintenance work on our equipment. If you'd like to see more videos of Dad's farming operation that I work with him on, go to my YouTube account: http://www.youtube.com/smgussey
And pictures of our work this year: http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a6/smgussey/farming08/
 
My dad farmed about 400 acres with an H and Super H in southern So Dak in the 50's and early 60's. We farmed different in that we "listed" all our corn and only single disked fields before drilling grain. We only plowed when we were breaking up alfalfa (many times used both tractors on a 2-16 plow). We spent a lot of time on the tractors with two row cultivators, a 7 foot mower, and Farmhand loader for stacking alfalfa. Roger
 
My grandfather bought a new H during WWII. They had to wait a while to get it, and it was delivered on April 25, 1944. My brother still has it, although I was the one that farmed with my dad. Started driving the ole H in about 1965.

My family farm was 314 acres. They plowed, disked, pulled the planter, and cultivated the crop. I rode on the platform of the AC pull type combine for it seems like a million acres of wheat. They also pulled a one row corn picker with it Silage chopper and or blower would have been a little much.

It also pulled tree tops out of the woods to be cut up for firewood, and pulled the logs out to be sold. It pulled a number of dead cows down to the holler when they didn't make it through the winter.

It was our main feed tractor. Pulled the JD wagon about a zillion miles delivering square bales of hay and silage to the cows. I have seen it plowing through the mud and snow, cutting ruts a foot or so deep. We also had a wood saw that mounted on the front and we cut a lot of firewood with it.

It was probably the most used tractor on the farm, being used while the 706 and 766 sat on the side lines and watched.

Best tractor ever made as far as I am concerned.
 
I have broken 2 as well. One while trying to pull out a stuck tractor and another one while spinning in the snow with tire chains. Both times I had the tractor in a lower gear and both have broken on me within a few months time. I've been disappointed. I know the bolts were good and tight on the one that broke while trying to pull out the stuck tractor, the metal failed. I broke that hub in first gear.

I should get an M I guess.
 
My Grandfather had an H and a C back in the 40's. When my dad started grandpa wouldn't let him trade the C on the M he bought he said they didn't need two big tractors around.
 
steven a 160 acre farm of 1939 consisted of some woodlands a field for hauling manure on or summer fallow plenty of hay and land for pasture so your probably only going to have eighty acres of plow ground in the spring. i started farming with a super h and a m. if you think you can plow fifteen acres with an h in a day you better be prepared for a twenty hour day.
 
I know this has nothing to do with an H, but I believe the comment about 160 acres being possible. My grandpa bought an Oliver 60 from an elderly couple a few years back who told him that they had farmed 180 acres with it for something like a couple decades.

They said they would farm for an 8 hour shift each, plus an 8 hour shift from a hired hand (thus, the tractor ran all 24 hours). They said that someone would come out with food, gas, and an oil rag halfway through each shift and that person would get on and plow until the meal was finished. Then the original operator could finish their shift.

I thought they were pulling his leg with all that, but he said they were almost in tears as he pulled out of the driveway with their old tractor, so I doubt it.

Regardless, I wanted to share because it's a cool story, and because a 60 is comparable to an H, if not somewhat smaller.

Thanks for all the stories in this thread!
 
Rick I will be 67 in Nov. I still live on the farm I grew up on My Granddad owned it then, and we farmed my Great Grand Mother"s farm also total of about 400 acres farmable. My Uncle had a B, Dad had a Super A, and Granddad had an H. Thge H pulled a 3 disc plow 6 ft tamden disc with 7 ft drag behind it or a 7 ft field cutivater with drag. Pulled a 1 row Alis field chopper ( not good though ) a 28 inch IHC seperator, later a 7 ft MH clipper combine and a 69 N H baler. The B and A pulled the drill, a 50T IHC baler hay wagons bundle wagons the binder hay rake but raked a lot with the H also. Dad had a mounted wood saw for the H and another uncle had a loader for it. Untill we put a power unit on the chopper we ended up pulling it with a neighbors U MM and pulled the silage wagons with the H.
 
"if you think you can plow fifteen acres with an h in a day you better be prepared for a twenty hour day."

We use to plow 15 or more acres a day with an H, only took about 9 hours to do the field here at the house, and I know for a fact its 15.32 acres. Dont recall the plow we used but it wasnt no little plow.
 
I still use my Farmall H. I am a retired high school Ag Teacher. There is a farmer in the area who has me plow his terraces and maybe in between. He furnishes my gas because he doesn't have time in the fall ar spring. The H pulls a little genius 2-14. It will plow about 0.6 acres per hour last fall I did 35 acres. It took several hours, but boy was it fun!
 
"if you think you can plow fifteen acres with an h in a day you better be prepared for a twenty hour day."



Yeah, so whats the problem? Some farmers operate on a union time table?
 
Uncle who retired in 1986 used his on the JD #5 sickle bar mower all summer (stayed on all summer long, was a PITA to put on and take off). In the fall, it was used on the belt drive elevator to put ear corn in the cribs. Occasionally pulled hayrack in winter while feeding cows.

All his other tractors (3) were green, the H was the only red one. Was pretty difficult to find anyone in the area, no matter what their color preference, that didn't have an M or an H, they were just handy, dependable tractors.
 
When my dad started farming him and grandpa farmed our 175 acre farm and grandpa's 80 with an H and one or two teams of horses they still planted with the horses. Lee
 
(quoted from post at 20:46:44 09/22/08) steven a 160 acre farm of 1939 consisted of some woodlands a field for hauling manure on or summer fallow plenty of hay and land for pasture so your probably only going to have eighty acres of plow ground in the spring. i started farming with a super h and a m. if you think you can plow fifteen acres with an h in a day you better be prepared for a twenty hour day.

Well, in the plains of ND, SD, etc. the homestead of 160 acres consisted of nothing but prairie. No trees to be seen until people started planting them - and that would probably not be much more than a shelter belt around the farmstead.

You need to realize that farming 160 acres does not mean having to pull a plow and break 160 acres of sod every spring! Where I'm from in ND they pulled a disc in front of the drill, not a plow.

And as for a 20 hour day - I've put many of those in on the farm, too. Especially during spring's work and harvest. My brother usually puts in a 10-12 hour day working in town and another 4-6 hours on the farm (sometimes times are switched if work is slow in town).
 
The M has got to have a thicker hub. I know the M has got bigger axles so it couldn't be the exact same hub.
 
Our family farm in N.E. Pa. (~140 acres) used H's & W4's exclusively for many many years & NEVER had the center hub issue. Believe me they were used hard also but NEVER abused & always kept in tip top operating condition. As others have said, they were weak on a thresher (we loved to see the potato sprayer come around with his M's & hook up when convenient) but did everything on the farm we needed of them. Too bad they never had 3 pt. hitches, IPTO, better hydraulics, etc. back then - it would have been so much better.
 
I did not say "the same hub", just the same design. That axle key breaking in your tractor is not common, so you don't need a larger tractor just because that key broke on yours. We have 3 H's and 1 parts H and I've seen many others and have never seen one of those keys break.
 
What a fantastic question to generate such a history of farming in the forties, etc. This column has been one to bring back many memories, only with a Super C on eighty acres with half of that pasture and buildings setting. Thanks to all who have painted the picture so thoroughly.
Wayne
 
Wow! This one stirred up a lot of answers!
I spent the first 35 years of my 77 on a dairy farm (about 200 acres) in NJ. In the late 30s and through the 40s, we used a 10-20 and an F-12, and sometimes got to use a neighbor's H and "Regular" Farmall, as well as an F-20 of a relative. In the early 50s, my father bought a somewhat-tired H to replace the aged 10-20, and ten years later, replaced that with another H that wasn't so tired.
I think, first of all, that the name "Farmall" tells us something. The original Farmall was supposed to do everything that horses could do, and I guess that was true. A quick run through the early Farmall sales catalog shows all kinds of attachments. I believe the most important in the minds of the designers was the cultivator. IHC made several kinds of attached cultivators for use in many different crops (corn, potatoes, cotton, for example). There were attached plows and listers. There was an attached mower, a front-loading hay sweep, and that's where my memory stops in this list.
On an eastern dairy farm, the actual amount of land to be plowed each year wasn't enormous--maybe fifty acres total. The rotation system was the reason for this: Corn the first year. Disk up and plant a grain + grass seed in the fall. Harvest the grain the following summer, and then hay for a few seasons after that. When the hay got to producing poorly, you started all over again.
There is an old formula for plowing and other work that is interesting and useful: width of implement times mph = acres worked in an 8-hour day. A plow 2' wide at 3 mph = 6 acres in an 8-hour day. In our soils, neither of the Hs would pull a 2-12" or 2-14" plow in any higher than second gear (specs say 3.5 mph). Calculation gives 2 ft. X 3.5 = 7 acres in 8 hours. That sounds about right. Here it's appropriate to make some comments about the H as a puller. It was supposed to be a "full 2-plow tractor," which means it replaced the F-20 or the 10-20. Well, sorta. The H had a smaller, faster-revving engine than those oldies, so there wasn't much torque. If you got pulled down in a hard spot, the tractor would slow way down. I have occasionally had to go to first gear when there wasn't enough torque to keep the engine speed up. An F-20 or 10-20, with their huge engines, would just go right on through. The same thing is probably true on the belt. Our 10-20 was a real puller on a thresher, and so was the F-20 we sometimes used. We didn't have an H when we were still using a thresher (up until about 1943), so I can't comment, but I'd guess that it would pull just fine (22" thresher) unless somebody overloaded the feeder.
Like the Farmall, the H had a full-line of attachable implements. Unlike the Farmall and F-20, the H was a pretty comfortable tractor for its day. Nice platform, nice seat, well-placed pedals, good placement of steering wheel, good visibility. Steering was easy enough. The earlier Farmalls were heavy and clumsy, but the H was lighter by almost 800 pounds, so it was a much nicer "chore" tractor (hauling, spreading manure, for example). Since it was comfortable and fairly easy to get on and off, and it was SOOOOOOOOO incredibly pretty, you actually wanted to use it whenever you could. Because the engine was not so big, and fourth gear could be used at part-throttle for light work (pulling a spike-toothed harrow comes to mind), it was probably more economical than an F-20. In many ways, it was more like an F-14 than an F-20, and some people even claim that IHC told dealers to sell the H as a replacement for the -12 and -14. Maybe they did. The sales literature I have from the 40s just says that it will pull two 14" plows under average conditions.
One thing I didn't always like was that very fast fifth gear. On the rough gravel roads of the 30s and 40s, and over the trails that we used to call roads through the fields, you couldn't pull much of anything in fifth because there wasn't enough torque to throttle back to 5 or 6 mph. Fourth gear would give you something close to 6 mph, but with the engine roaring wide open. John Deere and Oliver (70) both had six gears, with fifth being somewhere around 8 mph. If you throttled back in that gear, you could get your 6 mph with pretty good torque. I always suspected IHC engineers wanted to save a little money on expensive gears (fifth on the H and M is just a dog-clutch, similar to the old third gear on 3-speed auto transmission). Maybe it just shows that designers don't always use their products enough, or long enough, to get a good feel for how they will work in all conditions.
I don't have much use for a tractor anymore, except for keeping a small field in front of my house clear of weeds (I use a little Ford that has about the hp of a Cub--can I admit that I have something blue?), but if I could use an H, I'd love to have one. Actually, I think a Super H would be even better--live hydraulics, battery ignition, slightly faster ground speeds(fourth was moved up a bit to give a decent hauling speed over gravel roads).
 
Frank C says his H will plow about 0.6 acres per hour. That means 4.8 acres in 8 hours. That is probably a lot more realistic than the 7 acres that I gave as the theoretical outcome by using the formula I mentioned in my previous note. I sure as h....couldn"t sit on anything for 8 hours without stopping for breaks for various reasons. I guess if you had a couple of drivers and never let the poor thing rest, you might get 6 or 7 acres.
 
(quoted from post at 07:24:38 09/23/08) The M has got to have a thicker hub. I know the M has got bigger axles so it couldn't be the exact same hub.

It's also got more horsepower and more traction.

Everything is in proportion. More power needs bigger axle and thicker hub.

I suppose if you put an H engine in an M, or got an M with a weak engine, you'd be on track here.

Disappointed? This is a 60-year-old tractor we're talking about here, not a new John Deere. God only knows what kind of abuse that tractor has seen in those years, what kind of neglect. You may be doing everything right, but if someone let the hub run loose 20 years ago, the damage was already done. The first heavy load, and POP, there she goes.
 
You guys need to realize that not EVERY acre was plowed! Once the land was broken up, all you need is a spring tooth or a disc and then the drill. Lots of people did fall plowing, etc.

And, the whole crop doesn't need to be put in in three days!
 

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