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Wet vs. dry sleeves

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Wallet soon to

09-08-2002 05:52:45




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What is the major difference between dry and wet liners?? I've got a wet sleeved JD diesel(sorry) that is getting water in the oil. (Just to make up for that I also have a 46 M-dry sleeved-- no problems with the Farmall) Is pulling and installing sleeves something easily done or am I getting into a real mess? Thanks for the input.




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Gene

09-08-2002 07:55:47




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 Re: wet vs. dry sleeves in reply to Wallet soon to be lighter, 09-08-2002 05:52:45  
NoName?(Wallet soon to be lighter): Better read the string over on Tractor Talk forum from a couple days ago. The string stats: Question for long time mechanics. There're many very good replys about what to do to stop coolent leaks. marlowe mentions wet\dry sleeves and types of stop-leak products. This would be an easy first attempt for a very low cost compared to remove\replace sleeves. I think its on 2ed page now. Click "Discussions" on left side of this screen and then click open top item called "Tractor Talk". Good reading. Gene

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Diesel Don

09-08-2002 07:42:29




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 Re: wet vs. dry sleeves in reply to Wallet soon to be lighter, 09-08-2002 05:52:45  
A friend of mine told me a trick to remove stuck sleeves.I haven't tried it yet but the time is coming!Take a 6010 or 6011 welding rod and run a bead up the sides of the sleeves in a couple places.They will crack on the welds and slide right out.I have also heard of shrinking sleeves in liquid nitrogen for installation.Nitrogen is much colder than dry ice but it is harder to handle.



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tubba_JD420C_ny

09-08-2002 18:10:56




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 Re: Re: wet vs. dry sleeves in reply to Diesel Don, 09-08-2002 07:42:29  
I have seen this done during an in-frame that was being done on a Dry-sleeve Perkins 6-354 in a White 2-85 that has had too much ether put to it, which bent the rods, etc. )moral-go easy on the starting fluid, that overhaul cost the poor guy about $4,500) But a few passes along the inside of the sleeves with a small diameter welding rod shrank them enough to get them out easily.



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Steven@nd

09-08-2002 17:55:51




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 Re: Re: wet vs. dry sleeves in reply to Diesel Don, 09-08-2002 07:42:29  
Remember that the welding trick really only works with dry sleeves. I've never had a problem removing the wet sleeves.

Steven



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RAW in IA

09-08-2002 06:13:06




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 Re: wet vs. dry sleeves in reply to Wallet soon to be lighter, 09-08-2002 05:52:45  
Well, wet sleeves are installed in a block with O-rings to keep the coolant out of the crankcse. They are generally esier to remove, but you have to be careful installing new ones, and get things real clean to keeep the o-rings from leaking. Dry sleeves can be a bugger to remove, as they are thin sleeves that fit in the bore in athe block, and usually fit very tight to allow good heat transfer.You don't ve the coolant leakage problems as with dry sleeves. At the Mack deal;er I oncce worked at, they would immerse the dry sleeves in a tub with solvent and dry ice to cool them down and shrink them a bit so they would go in easier. Hopethis helps a bit.

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