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460 vs 560

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farmall300u

07-07-2002 13:52:31




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I have a very limited Farmall background except for M's and H's. What are the key differences between a 460 and 560? My Dad has a 560 and it has lots of power and runs excellent. Only problem is in the gear box where it stays in 5th gear no mattter where the shifter is. I am looking at a cheap 460. Is the 460 a good tractor or do you stay away from them?




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Allan Webb

07-08-2002 22:33:14




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 Re: 460 vs 560 in reply to farmall300u, 07-07-2002 13:52:31  
I use a 460 Diesel Wheatland Special (utility type) for haying and on my disker and harrows when seeding. Very handy, easy on fuel, lots of power on a square baler, bale picker or mower. It has been reliable except for a check valve in the fuel return line which kept jamming and stopping the engine until I figured out what was wrong. I particularly like the triple hydraulic outlets for the bale wagon and the TA when baling or picking bales. The only thing I don't like is the starting--you need good battery connections and the glow plugs even in the summer or when it has been recently running. When baling flax straw in the fall it can be -10 C and you don't leave it anywhere you can't plug in the block heater. Other than that, an excellent machine.

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Dachshund

07-07-2002 21:11:01




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 Re: 460 vs 560 in reply to farmall300u, 07-07-2002 13:52:31  
Like he said - you will get differing opinions - I would not by either IF it were a diesel! Hard starting, noisy, and just don't sound or smell quite like a real tractor should. Diesels may have more power, but the gassers are MUCH easier to live with!



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Keith B (PA)

07-08-2002 06:42:44




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 Re: Re: 460 vs 560 in reply to Dachshund, 07-07-2002 21:11:01  
Actually, I think the 560 gasser has a higher Nebraska HP rating than the 560 diesel. It wasn't until the 06 series came out where the diesels put out more HP than the gassers. Well at least from the factory.



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Don't buy either(unless its a diesel verson)!!! TP from Central PA

07-07-2002 19:33:00




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 Re: 460 vs 560 in reply to farmall300u, 07-07-2002 13:52:31  
We have a gas 560 and it is one gutless brute!!! We had the engine rebuilt by a local tractor pull rebuilder and it put out around 65 hp on his dyno when he set the carb up before we brought her home. We got it in the field along side of our M-TA(with a 281 block) and the M-TA can do nearly everything the 560 can do, except 3pt hitch work, and do it better! The 6 cyl gas engine has no torque to it when compared to the 281 with Firecraters. I personally would never buy a gas 560, I seen a Diesel 560 that was out-of-the-field stock at a tractor pull the other night, it was running about 80 hp and that D282 was some torquey engine, it would have drug the sled into the next county if they would have let it!!!

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Hugh MacKay

07-07-2002 16:37:23




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 Re: 460 vs 560 in reply to farmall300u, 07-07-2002 13:52:31  
The biggest problem with these tractors was they were just Farmall Hs & Ms with to much power. Problem for most part did get corrected and if you have a later model they are good. I had one of the last 560D ever built and it was one tough tractor. Of the 12 Farmalls I owned in my lifetime that 560 saw more work over its rated hp than any of rest. Diesel pump was set in the 90-100 hp range 16 years and 11,000 hours. Tractor ended its time with me by putting 2 pistons through block at 11,000 the 11,000 hour mark. Believe me it was no shame for tractor.

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CNKS

07-07-2002 14:34:38




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 Re: 460 vs 560 in reply to farmall300u, 07-07-2002 13:52:31  
460 is the last of the "H" line and replaced the 350. 560 is the last of the "M" line and replaced the 450. 560 had rear end problems, although a recall fixed most of them. Not sure of the 460. Never driven either of them. They are both good tractors, but you will get a lot of differing opinions.



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K.B.

07-07-2002 14:33:24




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 Re: 460 vs 560 in reply to farmall300u, 07-07-2002 13:52:31  
Here's some basic information-

The 460 was built 1958-1963. It replaced the 350, which replaced the 300, which replaced the Super H. It was avalible with a C-221 gas engine or a D-236 diesel. It's about a 50 horsepower tractor.

The 560 replaced the Super M, 400, 450 line of tractors, had a C-263 gas or a D-282 diesel. About a 63 horsepower tractor.

The 460 and 560 are both considered to be pretty good tractors.

Hope this helps!

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Dick Davis

07-10-2002 03:55:56




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 Re: Re: 460 vs 560 in reply to K.B., 07-07-2002 14:33:24  
My very limited experience with a RC460 was one Dad bought used for a chore tractor. Hard starting, very long tractor(unhandy in/around buildings), and was really gutless on tillage equipment. Maybe the previous owner sold it do to lack of power! Dick



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