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Curious M-TA question

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Farmer Bob

06-23-2002 09:00:37




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After a lot of reading, I'm wondering how many M-TA's were produced (Not SMTA's). Also were these equipped with the standard M 3-7/8" bore? Were they produced with the TA or were the TA units added on later. Also what year(s) were they produced. Thanks.//FB




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Don LC

06-25-2002 16:29:07




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 Re: Curious M-TA question in reply to Farmer Bob, 06-23-2002 09:00:37  
International made "running change overs" from one model to the next....starting in 1951 some of the later Ms" produced could have Super M parts....some you can see some you can't....my 1951 M ....has disk breaks ,it could have Super M trans,gears = faster land speed in 3rd and 4th.It could also have the 4" pistons.....



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Brokenwrench

06-24-2002 14:09:26




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 Re: Curious M-TA question in reply to Farmer Bob, 06-23-2002 09:00:37  
The TA was one of the options that could be added to a Super M. Almost everything that could be bolted on or in the tractor was an option back then. Live pto, belt pulley, swinging drawbar,lights,TA, wide front,or single front wheel,or the V(high crop) were all options.



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randy hall

06-23-2002 15:21:13




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 Re: Curious M-TA question in reply to Farmer Bob, 06-23-2002 09:00:37  
i don't know what you are reading, but there is no such thing as a plain m-ta, they are all super m tractors. in the red power magazine an issue or two back there was an article about things like this that a lot of people get confused. we have two super m-ta's and we call them m-ta's i guess because it's easier and quicker to say go get the m-ta. hope this helps clear this up.



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BIG JOHN

06-23-2002 14:35:55




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 Re: Curious M-TA question in reply to Farmer Bob, 06-23-2002 09:00:37  
I know that the book only shows a Super MTA, but I have a friend that has a MTA.



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boog

06-23-2002 19:45:26




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 Re: Re: Curious M-TA question in reply to BIG JOHN, 06-23-2002 14:35:55  
Sorry Big John but there is no such thing as an MTA, only SMTAs. MTA is slang for SMTA. I often refer to my SMTA as the "MTA", lot easier than saying SUPER MTA. Evidently someone has doctored the decals on your friends so called "MTA". Sorta like an SHTA, no such thing there either though IH did build a prototype HTA back in the late 40s. That tractor was disassembled after testing.



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Brian in MO

06-23-2002 10:30:06




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 Re: Curious M-TA question in reply to Farmer Bob, 06-23-2002 09:00:37  
Somone may correct me on this but I think the only M-TA's were all supers



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Correct

06-23-2002 10:57:46




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 Re: Re: Curious M-TA question in reply to Brian in MO, 06-23-2002 10:30:06  
And the Super MTA was only made in 1954.



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TP from Central PA

06-23-2002 14:40:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Curious M-TA question in reply to Correct, 06-23-2002 10:57:46  
That is how I have always taken it. They did however make the SM-TA with and without the T/A. I also have heard that the live PTO was an option.



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Farmer Bob

06-24-2002 18:38:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Curious M-TA question in reply to TP from Central PA, 06-23-2002 14:40:34  
Thank you all! Now I guess I'll have to tear it down to find out what size pistions it has.//FB



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Robin Broders

06-25-2002 14:39:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Curious M-TA question in reply to Farmer Bob, 06-24-2002 18:38:39  
Just look at the numbers cast on the oil side of the block "C248" is the block of an M while "C264" is a Super M



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