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Honkey

04-27-2002 19:02:12




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Hi Kevin,
I have seen people put 20.8 on in place of the 18.4's and not change the rims.

The wheel wedges can be a pain to remove. I loosened the wedge bolt on my Hydro 100 and the wedges were stuck. I ran it for two weeks loose one of the wedges was still stuck. I ended up using a cutting torch on the wedge. the threads on the bolt were shot. So I got a new wedge assembly at a junkyard.

I would say by the sounds of it that your pump is ready for a rebuild. Those American Bosch pumps don't run that long, 4000 hours or so.

Good luck Matthew in SD

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Hugh MacKay

04-28-2002 03:27:16




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 Re: Re: 1066 wheels in reply to Honkey, 04-27-2002 19:02:12  
You mentioned in your post having trouble with the wedge lock wheels. I bought a new 1066 in 1975, kept it for a shade over 10,000 hours. I only ever loosened wedge locks once when I installed duals. My tractor had been set on 84" centres new. Once I installed duals I never had them off again. I wondered at time if those wedge locks wouldn't be trouble as they got older, especially if they were adjusted a lot. That is main reason I never touched them again. Another troublesome idea from IH. Am I making the right assumption?

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Honkey

04-28-2002 10:11:47




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 Re: Re: Re: 1066 wheels in reply to Hugh MacKay, 04-28-2002 03:27:16  
Hi Hugh,
I had a heck of a time getting the wedges out, just like you said, one was loose and one was set. I won't move the wheels on it again if I don't have too!

I had to move my wheels in so I could run my 8' snowblower. They were set wide for mowing road shoulders.

I always wondered why there was a clamp only on one wheel. And what it was for!

Matthew in SD



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Kevin-IN

04-28-2002 04:47:18




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 Re: Re: Re: 1066 wheels in reply to Hugh MacKay, 04-28-2002 03:27:16  
I have'nt tried to get them off yet but I remember seeing a lock tool kit in the owners manual and just figured I would need one to remove them and did'nt know if they would be hard to get out w/out the tool kit or if they would even come out w/out using the kit,and are they going to come loose easy or shoot out like a rocket if stuck,I just don't want to get someone hurt that is standing around.
Kevin.

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Craig MO

04-28-2002 17:36:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 1066 wheels in reply to Kevin-IN, 04-28-2002 04:47:18  
If you loosen the wedge bolt but do not unscrew it out of inner wedge jack tractor up until wheel is off ground. Turn wheel until the two flat spots on axle are on top. Hit the top side of axle out towards the end of the axle with a maul. I use a 12# one and about 5 or 6 hits and most usually come loose. If its real tough it may take 15 or 20. This is the procedure that I was told to do and I've done a bunch and it works.

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Red Baron

04-30-2002 05:54:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1066 wheels in reply to Craig MO, 04-28-2002 17:36:30  
I agree I have worked on IH for 24 years and have loosened the wedges by hitting on the axle,it works all the time. It is usually guicker than putting the unlocking kit on the wheel.



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Hugh MacKay

04-29-2002 18:45:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1066 wheels in reply to Craig MO, 04-28-2002 17:36:30  
If those were tightened to 600 ft.lbs., which they are suposed to be, you will no live long enough to knock those loose with a hammer.



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Craig MO

04-30-2002 20:15:38




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1066 wheels in reply to Hugh MacKay, 04-29-2002 18:45:45  
Hugh I have broken lots of wheel wedges loose using this method and could probably do it faster than it takes me to send this reply using my one finger typing. Don't knock it till you've tried it.



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Hugh MacKay

04-28-2002 05:31:07




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 1066 wheels in reply to Kevin-IN, 04-28-2002 04:47:18  
Kevin: There is no use even atempting to loosen those wheels without clamp kit. One wedge will come loose and the other will not. Once you have the wedges torqued you can loosen the bolt and run with it loose. The wedges will never come loose. The clamp for loosening the wedges is usually left on one wheel or the other depending on which wheel was done last. That was the secret in not looseing it. The time I did my wheels, of course we went to the wheel without clamp on first. Got one wedge loose the other wouldn't come. After about two hours, called dealer to tell him I didn't get clamp with tractor, he said," it is probably on the other wheel." Sure enough it was. The tractor also came with a 6' pipe handle for wrench. You tighten those wedges to 600 ft. lbs. (100 lb. pull on the end of the six foot wrench). If that clamp is missing you will have to find one. Bone yards should have them. That was one of the first problems I saw with the set up, was people hanging the clamp in shed and not going with tractor. IH shouldn't have been so cheap and put one permenantly on each wheel. How much could that have cost in mass production? Hugh

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Hugh MacKay

04-27-2002 19:33:10




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 Re: Re: 1066 wheels in reply to Honkey, 04-27-2002 19:02:12  
I got 10,000 hours on a couple of American Bosch pumps. One was on a 1066.



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Honkey

04-28-2002 10:05:27




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 Re: Re: Re: 1066 wheels in reply to Hugh MacKay, 04-27-2002 19:33:10  
Hi Hugh,
How long did you run them with weak governors? The friction fingers on the governor are the weak spot, especially tough on them going down hill and letting the engine do the braking!

The two pumps you have are the exception, rather than the rule. You obviously took good care of them.

My statement still stands. They have a poorly designed governor. And don't run very long in comparison to other pumps.

Matthew in SD

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