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C rear axle seals and touch control

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Charles Norwood

03-21-2002 08:45:26




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Trying to fix the leaks on my C before repainting. The outer rear axle seals are leaking -- relatively simple fix. However, I assume the inner seals are bad too, else the outer ones would not leak? To replace the inner seals the transmission cover and bull gears have to be removed. What are my chances of stopping the leak by replacing only the outer seal? What if I use two seals?

I have a gasket/seal kit for the touch control block -- Can't get the head off (to the rear, next to the battery)Have all bolts out, and have given several blows with a hammer using a 2x4. Don't think I'll break anything, but am I missing something? Thanks in advance.

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Charles Norwood

03-22-2002 19:09:08




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 Re: C rear axle seals and touch control in reply to Charles Norwood, 03-21-2002 08:45:26  
Thanks, you all confirmed what I thought -- Just wasn't sure. Seals will be here tomorrow.



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Haas

03-22-2002 17:35:07




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 Re: C rear axle seals and touch control in reply to Charles Norwood, 03-21-2002 08:45:26  
Others here are correct. If you have a transmission fluid leak at the outer seal, you'll have to replace the inner seal. The lube of the outer bearing is only by the grease fitting provided. If all seals are in good condition, no transmission fluid gets to the outer bearing.



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RedTed/MO

03-22-2002 10:54:02




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 Re: C rear axle seals and touch control in reply to Charles Norwood, 03-21-2002 08:45:26  
Charles: Funny you should ask! We're working on that question this morning with my own Super C. The other posters seem to be right on target. Any leaking from the outer seal means the inner seal isn't sealing and -- if you're anywhere close to the inner seals -- it's worth a shot at replacing them,... or putting some kitty litter on the shop floor and counting on wiping off the end of the axle housings when you want to show off your tractor. Keep on wrenching. RedTed/MO.

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geoff gauger

03-22-2002 06:02:18




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 Re: C rear axle seals and touch control in reply to Charles Norwood, 03-21-2002 08:45:26  
Do it right. You will find that the original seal has cut a groove in the axle shaft. If the new seal lands in this groove your leaks will most likely still be there. I'm a little crazy about my restoration work but if I can't position the new seal so that the lip rests on virgin shaft I put the shaft on the lathe and turn it down (in the area of seal contact only) to the next standard seal size. If the inner seal is done right, the outer is fairly irrelevant since the outer bearing is only greased.

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J3nut

03-21-2002 18:19:21




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 Re: C rear axle seals and touch control in reply to Charles Norwood, 03-21-2002 08:45:26  
I just did all those seals and your right, it is a job but now I expect to have taken care of all the leaks.....time will tell.

Good luck.

Mark



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Salvage Man

03-21-2002 10:46:08




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 Re: C rear axle seals and touch control in reply to Charles Norwood, 03-21-2002 08:45:26  
If you don't replace the inner seals, The pressure of the heating and cooling of the housing will force oil out.



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ScottyNY

03-21-2002 09:08:18




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 Re: C rear axle seals and touch control in reply to Charles Norwood, 03-21-2002 08:45:26  
Can't help with the seal question, but the TC head-- if you've got the bolts out, you've got it all. Mine came off really hard, and whatever was used for a gasket sealer was the very devil to get off. If you've got something fairly mild by way of a wedge, thin and with not too much of an angle(like a rigid scraper) that you can use, I expect you'll have better luck prying your way around it than you will bouncing or sliding it. As long as the sytem is drained so there's no chance of a vacuum working on the inside, it should come off, with patience. Good luck! Scotty

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Charles Norwood

03-21-2002 09:43:13




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 Re: Re: C rear axle seals and touch control in reply to ScottyNY, 03-21-2002 09:08:18  
Thanks -- i'll keep trying. I'll try prying but don't want to damage the machined surfaces.



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