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Max wheel spacing for an IH 4586 4wd

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Phil Treier

03-18-2002 17:38:12




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Can anyone tell me the max width for wheel spacing on 4586? I'm trying to find a tractor that can straddle 4, 30" rows, so I'm looking for something that will handle the axle stresses of 120" wheel spacing.

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the tractor vet

03-18-2002 19:44:15




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 Re: Max wheel spacing for an IH 4586 4wd in reply to Phil Treier, 03-18-2002 17:38:12  
I don't know that but it just seams to me that is a lot of tractor for ROW CROPPING , I know that a 2+2 will go down to that and you can run a straddel dual if the axels are the long ones , i have seen them use for cultivating before.



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Phil Treier

03-19-2002 05:12:53




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 Re: Re: Max wheel spacing for an IH 4586 4wd in reply to the tractor vet, 03-18-2002 19:44:15  
So you think a 2+2 will space out to 120"? I think a 4586 on dual radials would have an acceptable ground pressure for being such a large tractor.

I'm trying to find something so I can switch to 16 row equipment, then my tractor and combine tracks will overlap so I can get more controlled traffic with less compaction- (we have heavy clay soils that don't drain well)



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the tractor vet

03-19-2002 07:00:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Max wheel spacing for an IH 4586 4wd in reply to Phil Treier, 03-19-2002 05:12:53  
Are you on a deep till program or just notill? A buddy of mine was a DMI block man and we played around with the deep till and i did like the resualts it did not disturb the serface much and on a wet year it helped on drainage and on a dry year the plant root went deeper for moisture and ya did not have to till every year my only problem was i did not have the pony power to pull it with my tractor . It sure did help on compaction , my hard pan was at7to 8 inches and went down to 14-16 inches that was from the 30-35 years of cattel tromping on the ground.

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Phil Treier

03-19-2002 07:23:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Max wheel spacing for an IH 4586 4wd in reply to the tractor vet, 03-19-2002 07:00:22  
We actually ridge till. Right now we don't do much deep tillage, sometimes vrip every 5 years or so if we decide to throw wheat into the rotation. Ideally, we would zone deep till over the row every couple years. I have seen other successful programs that do this.



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Redman

03-20-2002 21:06:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Max wheel spacing for an IH 4586 4wd in reply to Phil Treier, 03-19-2002 07:23:21  
Look into a 9100 or 9200 series Steiger 4wd Row crop special. They are priced pretty reasonable anymore, and they are virtually bulletproof. I've been there, you will be much much happier with one of these, and over the long run will be cheaper to own!



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Denny Frisk

03-19-2002 06:58:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Max wheel spacing for an IH 4586 4wd in reply to Phil Treier, 03-19-2002 05:12:53  
PHIL - From the factory there was only 2 dual wheels avail. for the 2+2's, one 16X38 and 1 18X38 for use with 18.4X38 tires and 20.8 x 38 tires. BUT You can play with wheel offset on the duals and get the 120" spacing You want with the 2+2. For that matter You can do that with the 4586 as well. When I was at FARMALL, Steiger was making all the wheels for their tractors as well as the IH and Fords they built. I have NO idea what the part numbers would be for the right wheels to do what You want with the 4586, but I still remember the Farmall part numbers. Only thing to watch out for is the outer wheels touching Lug-to-Lug on the inside of the turn when the duals are spaced that wide. It would required a pretty large turn radius. But with 16 row equip. it may not be a problem. Any dual wheel company should be able to fix You right up.

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