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Farmallb

03-21-2009 17:51:11




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Bought this 49 H. Tried to start it belt to belt off of my CC Case. The H hummed like a sewing machine, and built 40% pressure, but not hardly a pop, and when there finally was a pop, it was soft. I had the mag checked, and its fine. I put a screwdriver into a plug wire and held it close to bare metal and saw fire. I put new plugs in it, and gapped them to 25. Whats your thoughts. The oval box dosent have a knob for light density as my dads 48 had. And, the push pull shitch is mounted in the box instread of away below it. And it has a up/down/ flip switch I dont remember my dads haveing for the mag kill. I think his had a distributor, but that was 50 yrs ago. Sprayed the carb with either but not a pop or nothing. hardly. Havnt done anything yet to the carb. Gonna order a kit Mon

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Mike CA

03-22-2009 22:35:28




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 Re: Need some engine help guys in reply to Farmallb, 03-21-2009 17:51:11  
The internet really brings out the best in people sometimes. :roll: Pathetic.



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Farmallb

03-22-2009 14:35:46




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 Re: Need some engine help guys in reply to Farmallb, 03-21-2009 17:51:11  
Im told this is a 48. The serial number is FBH- 303902XI. Does this tractor have band brakes yet or disc??



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rusty wheel

03-21-2009 18:37:40




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 Re: Need some engine help guys in reply to Farmallb, 03-21-2009 17:51:11  
Maybe low compression. rw



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Janicholson

03-21-2009 18:03:17




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 Re: Need some engine help guys in reply to Farmallb, 03-21-2009 17:51:11  
The switch is not stock. Make sure it is a grounding switch, not power. Timing is everything. I would have you look back in the archives for timing a Mag. Does it have suction on the carb intake when turning? Are you sure you are turning it so the fan sucks air through the radiator (just a thought on the beltup) JimN



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Farmallb

03-21-2009 18:39:39




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 Re: Need some engine help guys in reply to Janicholson, 03-21-2009 18:03:17  
I am 61 ands have been starting tractors that way for 40 yrs. I had a 1/2 twist on the belt makeing both pulleys turn clockwise. Yes, I think the carb had suction, as when I stopped it, the gas/spray would come out of the carb.



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gtx1967jewison

03-21-2009 22:39:48




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 Re: Need some engine help guys in reply to Farmallb, 03-21-2009 18:39:39  
read what u wrote then THINK!!! u had a twit in belt meaning the 2 pulleys HAD TO be turning opposite directions. then u went on to say that the gas sprayed out the CARB when stopped. you're turning the engine backward any way u read it. ha ha lol!



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D Slater

03-22-2009 07:13:14




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 Re: Need some engine help guys in reply to gtx1967jewison, 03-21-2009 22:39:48  
Think he was saying it was showing 40 lb. of oil pressure when turning. It wouldn't have if turning the wrong way.



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Farmallb

03-22-2009 10:45:37




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 Re: Need some engine help guys in reply to D Slater, 03-22-2009 07:13:14  
AND, If it shows 40# pressure, dosent that mean it has good compression?? As to the firing order. I started #1 in the top outside hole, and went around clockwise, 1342



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tipper

03-22-2009 21:12:15




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 Re: Need some engine help guys in reply to Farmallb, 03-22-2009 10:45:37  
I don't think oil pressure is going to tell you anything about cylinder pressure/compression. Is that what you were asking a post back?
This post was edited by tipper at 21:14:10 03/22/09.



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Red Mist

03-22-2009 05:43:56




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 Re: Need some engine help guys in reply to gtx1967jewison, 03-21-2009 22:39:48  

gtx1967jewison said: (quoted from post at 22:39:48 03/21/09) read what u wrote then THINK!!! u had a twit in belt meaning the 2
pulleys HAD TO be turning opposite directions. then u went on to
say that the gas sprayed out the CARB when stopped. you're
turning the engine backward any way u read it. ha ha lol!


Wrong. If the two tractors are facing each other, then there has to be a twist in the belt for both pulleys to turn the same way. HAW-HAW.

mike

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gtx1967jewison

03-22-2009 22:24:29




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 Re: Need some engine help guys in reply to Red Mist, 03-22-2009 05:43:56  
haw haw yourself. you're an idiot there CANT be a twist if u want them to both turn clockwise or both turn counterclockwise, i.e. the same direction. obviously its a waste of time trying to fix stupid so PEACE OUT moron. if you were to put a twist in your bicycle chain u think u'd still travel FORWARD when pedaling FORWARD wtf?



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Jim Becker

03-23-2009 07:58:21




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 Re: Need some engine help guys in reply to gtx1967jewison, 03-22-2009 22:24:29  
There is an old saying "Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." Words you should learn to follow. You are forgetting the simple fact that to belt 2 tractors together, one has to face the other. Anybody that thinks about it for a minute would realize that reverses the direction of one pulley relative to the other. Anybody that actually tried to do it would very quickly learn that the twist is needed.

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old

03-21-2009 19:49:59




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 Re: Need some engine help guys in reply to Farmallb, 03-21-2009 18:39:39  
By chance is the firing order wrong??? Could be that the plug wires are not hooked up as they should be



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Janicholson

03-21-2009 18:48:51




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 Re: Need some engine help guys in reply to Farmallb, 03-21-2009 18:39:39  
I believe! The next step after making sure the timing is on, is to do a compression check. Stuck open intake valves, would act like that. JimN



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