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Re: how to tell an H from a M or a Super H

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sammy the RED

12-26-2001 15:52:59

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One sure way is to look at serial number plate, if it has one.
A H will say, H.
A Super H will say, SH.
A M will say, M.
A M will be taller.
Now, someone will say that all Super H's have disk brakes. This is incorrect.
I'am sure others will chime in to help you with other things to look for like engine size and such.
Good Luck. J

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Denny Frisk

12-27-2001 08:25:29

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 Re: Re: how to tell an H from a M or a Super H in reply to sammy the RED, 12-26-2001 15:52:59  
ALL SUPER H's did have disc brakes.... and had the C164 engines. I thought it had been discussed here that even some late H's were made with IHC disc brakes, not the aftermarket Lambert's or ???. I thought Guy Fay's book, Letter Series Restoration Guide, pretty well described all the differences.

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Dan H.

12-27-2001 17:47:43

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 Re: Re: Re: how to tell an H from a M or a Super H in reply to Denny Frisk, 12-27-2001 08:25:29  
My 1953 Super -H- S.N.SH9961J does not have disc breaks. This tractor is original from the factory and the battery is located under the gas tank. I believe that 1954 Super H --Farmalls had disc brakes and battery under the seat.

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Charles Norwood

12-26-2001 19:25:30

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 Re: Re: how to tell an H from a M or a Super H in reply to sammy the RED, 12-26-2001 15:52:59  
Serial # prefix for an H is FBH, for an M it is FBK. Don't remember why it is not "FBM". The M is much larger than the H. If you are looking up close -- because of its size the M has curved clutch and brake pedals, the H has straight pedals.

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Dick Davis

12-27-2001 13:03:55

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 Re: Re: Re: how to tell an H from a M or a Super H in reply to Charles Norwood, 12-26-2001 19:25:30  
Bill, another way to tell an M from an H is to hook up a 3-14 (or 16") plow in farly heavy clay soil, if the tractor walks off with the plow in 2nd or 3rd gear it is surely an M. The H or Super will work real hard to move the plow. Under the same conditions. :>)

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Don H

12-27-2001 14:00:31

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 Re: Re: Re: Re: how to tell an H from a M or a Super H in reply to Dick Davis, 12-27-2001 13:03:55  
Dick, I would have been inclined to agree with you- until I saw a guy at Penfield, IL pull 3 14's (trailer plow) with a Super H in third gear, and he was plowing alfalfa sod. That was at an IH old tractor show and I was surprised at how well that tractor handled the load.

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Dick Davis

12-28-2001 04:32:42

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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: how to tell an H from a M or a Super H in reply to Don H, 12-27-2001 14:00:31  
Don H. I would have been impressed with a SH and 3-14's in alfalfa sod. Do you suppose the fella had "improved" the SH motor? I remember when my dad replaced our H with a Super, there was an improvementin power but still way behind the oldest M we had. Wish I had 'em all today. Dick

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