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BC

10-16-2001 10:24:53




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Do I really need one?I seem to have more problems with them than anything else.I was thinking of just putting a shutoff valve at the tank with an inline fuel filter.I know water maybe a problem,but I keep my M stored indoors and havent had too big of a problem with water before and I know the tank is clean.I just cant get the fuel to floe properly with several bowls Ive tried.




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John

10-17-2001 07:04:56




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 Re: sediment bowl in reply to BC, 10-16-2001 10:24:53  
I have both on my tractor. The sediment bowl was still allowing a little bit of "gunk" into my carburetor, forcing me to remove it and clean it about once a year. I since put an in-line filter in after the sediment bowl and that helped significantly.

When you buy a filter, however, make sure it is for a gravity fed system. I would recommend a larger, canister type filter made for a lawnmower engine. I know that Kohler makes them. You can not buy any old filter from Wal-Mart. These filters are made for an engine with a fuel pump. I bought one of those at first and my tractor simply didn't get enough fuel, especially when under a load or going up a hill. Good luck.

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Bill Smith

10-16-2001 18:59:04




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 Re: sediment bowl in reply to BC, 10-16-2001 10:24:53  
You said you have tried several bowles? I don't think the bowl is your problem. The original bowl assembly had a screen that went across the top of it. Is this screen present and clean or is it missing? You should also have a screen at the other end of the line at your carburator. You have to unscrew the line off the carb and it is suppose to have a screen in there. Check to see if it is in there and clean. Your line also might be gunked up inside or maybe kinked. If not kinked you may be able to run a soft wire through it to clean the gunk out if any is in there. If you are having problems now I am sure you will if you eliminate bowl and add inline filter. Gas should have no problem gravity flowing down to the carb and if it does then something is blocking it and it isn't air and I doubt it is the bowl unless it is like plum full of crud. Your fuel line system doesn't need to be blead free of air for the gas to flow. The air is simply pushed into the carb. I just thought of something else. Maybe your valve in the float assembly in your carb is sticking shut. Or when you turn your gas on do you just like open it 1/4 or 1/2 of turn at the valve? I know, I'm just asking. You should really open it up atleast 2 or 3 turns if your not. I am not saying an inline filter is a bad idea, I'm just saying I doubt it will fix your problem. A tractor buddy of mine puts inline filters on all his tractors. I don't have any on mine and don't really see the need. I guess it just makes him sleep better at night. I just make sure I put clean fuel in my tractors right off the bat and my mind is working on other things when I go to bed. lol I would diffinately investigate and get to the bottom of this to see what your problem really is.

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BC

10-17-2001 15:46:48




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 Re: Re: sediment bowl in reply to Bill Smith, 10-16-2001 18:59:04  
the problem Im having is related to the bowl itself.Flow or trash build up isnt the problem.Sometimes the gas flows fine,sometimes it dont.I loosen the nut on the bottom gas flows but leaks at the gasket.I have changed the whole assembly with different types and bowl sizes and brands,but I still have the problem.Just tired of fooling with it!



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pete

10-17-2001 16:53:14




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 Re: Re: Re: sediment bowl in reply to BC, 10-17-2001 15:46:48  
I was having what I thought was a problem with my sediment bowl filling back up after I worked/cleaned it. I'd put the whole thing back together and turn it on and no gas would come out to fill up the bowl. At first I thought something was wrong, but I finally realized that the bowl wouldn't fill until the carb float valve opened up and allowed the trapped air to bleed out. Could that be what's happening to you?

Pete

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Bob in Southwest Iowa

10-16-2001 17:05:44




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 Re: sediment bowl in reply to BC, 10-16-2001 10:24:53  
The inline fuel fitler works well for me. I have the sediment bowl that I can put back on the tractor if I want to for originality.

Bob



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Bigdog

10-16-2001 12:41:39




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 Re: sediment bowl in reply to BC, 10-16-2001 10:24:53  
You need to remember that with a gravity fed fuel system your in-line filter will have to allow enough fuel flow without adding significant restriction to the fuel line or you'll starve the engine.



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Drizler

10-17-2001 00:37:18




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 Re: Re: sediment bowl in reply to Bigdog, 10-16-2001 12:41:39  
I had nothing but trouble with mine like that. I had to put on a new bowl to get it right. Someone said something about that being the only answer sometimes. I ended up with a new copper line as well. A royal pain getting the fittings to match up but at least now it runs for a change.



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Steven

10-16-2001 10:29:05




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 Re: sediment bowl in reply to BC, 10-16-2001 10:24:53  
It won't look original, but when you are using them I think the inline filter would work fine. The advantage of the sediment bowl is it is cleanable, not a throw away part. There are inline fuel filters that can be taken apart and the screen cleaned, or else get the little $0.75 clear ones and replace them when they get dirty.

I think your idea will work fine.

Steven



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walt f

10-18-2001 00:25:07




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 Re: Re: sediment bowl in reply to Steven, 10-16-2001 10:29:05  
there is a reason you are having trouble. the origional fuel system worked fine, and is a good design. my f-20 is down right now because of fuel system problems. my tank was full of tar (old gas)and rust. it finally got a hole in it, so i took it off to get it repaired at the radiator shop. patch, boil, and cote the inside with alcohol resistant cote--85.00. it's at the ornamental iron shop right now getting sandblasted and painted with gray primer

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