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EZHangin

08-27-2001 06:09:39




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Replaced the oil in the A.
I found the old oil to be very light , like water.
It was also very very black.
I put in 10W-30.
Someone then told me, you MUST use a non-detergent oil, a straight 30.
Anyway I dropped the oil after only an hour of running time, the new oil was as black as the old stuff!!
I have read both sides of argument on detergent oils. Some say new OK some say NO.
Should I be concerned of some other problem seeing that new oil is so dirty?

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Bob Kerr

08-27-2001 22:15:06




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 Re: New Oil - Black ! in reply to EZHangin, 08-27-2001 06:09:39  
Is the old girl running too rich? If it is the back smoke will be coming out of the exhaust pipe but it also will be washing un burned raw gasoiline past the rings and into the crank case. That will make for water thin black oil for sure!



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Mark W.

08-28-2001 19:20:43




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 Re: Re: New Oil - Black ! in reply to Bob Kerr, 08-27-2001 22:15:06  
Bob:

I'll second that. I changed the oil immediately when I got my 300 Utility. It looked, poured, and smelled like black gasoline -- and there was a lot of it! I figured it must have been a combination of carbon and unburned gas.

Mark W.



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Kendall

08-27-2001 14:07:43




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 Re: New Oil - Black ! in reply to EZHangin, 08-27-2001 06:09:39  
As old and loose as your engine is, it probably wont hurt to run 10W40. It will help take up some of the slack in worn bearings. I'd stick with the detergent oil, change filter frequently, clean oil pan, and after a while the engine will be a lot cleaner.



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Jon with an M

08-27-2001 07:09:00




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 Re: New Oil - Black ! in reply to EZHangin, 08-27-2001 06:09:39  
I run detergent 30 Wt in all of our tractors, an M, an H, 2 Cubs and even two of them lizzard green tractors. All over 40 years old. What I do when I get a "New" tractor is to drop the oilpan and clean it out, there is always some kind of sludge in the bottom. Then put about an hour on new oil and filter and then change it. So far so good.

Enjoy!

Jon M



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EZHangin

08-27-2001 19:32:57




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 Re: Re: New Oil - Black ! in reply to Jon with an M, 08-27-2001 07:09:00  
So far it's been a thumbs up for the detergent oil. I have even read a couple archive articles promoting the use of 10W30.
So I think I will take the pan suggestion as well and top er up again.
Thanks for the input.



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EZHangin

08-27-2001 06:41:41




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 Re: New Oil - Black ! in reply to EZHangin, 08-27-2001 06:09:39  
Cold climate ?
How does Northern Ontario Canada sound?
We have 10 months of winter and 2 months of poor snowmobling !



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George

08-27-2001 06:31:17




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 Re: New Oil - Black ! in reply to EZHangin, 08-27-2001 06:09:39  
Oil is detergent, so oil cleans!! It will be black/dirty that means its cleaning, it suspends stuff in it. The filter removes most of the particules. Get it hot and drain it a couple times and it will do its job,lubing the engine as well as cleaning up the engine. Nothing wrong with using det. oil its a lot better TODAY than the oil that was available when the tractor was new.



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Lazy Horse

08-27-2001 06:27:25




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 Re: New Oil - Black ! in reply to EZHangin, 08-27-2001 06:09:39  
In my non expert opinion you can use detergent oil. Like you have already noticed it will break lose a lot of the old deposits, so you will need to change it and the filter more frequently. Unless you are in a really cold climate though I would go with a straight 30 wt. rather than 10w30. One drawback you may notice after using the detergent oil might be oil usage, and engine noise from breaking all the old sludge loose and cleaning up the internals.

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EZHangin

08-27-2001 06:37:43




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 Re: Re: New Oil - Black ! in reply to Lazy Horse, 08-27-2001 06:27:25  
True, the engine does have a slightly different sound. But not a bad sound.



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Lazy Horse

08-27-2001 06:22:51




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 Re: New Oil - Black ! in reply to EZHangin, 08-27-2001 06:09:39  
In my non expert opinion you can use detergent oil. Like you have already noticed it will break lose a lot of the old deposits, so you will need to change it and the filter more frequently. Unless you are in a really cold climate though I would go with a straight 30 wt. rather than 10w30. One drawback you may notice after using the detergent oil might be oil usage, and engine noise from breaking all the old sludge loose and cleaning up the internals.

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