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How Do I take an IH-300 out of Storage

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Ken Tajchman

08-23-2001 11:45:08




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I will be in the market for a utility tractor in the next year or two. The wife and I will be moving rural to 5-10 acres, and farm alternate crops (veggies, sweet corn, herbs, flowers, etc). The unit will be used for seedbed prep, towing various wagons, field mowing, and other small farm operations.

I have the oppotunity to get an IH-300 (unkown vintage). It has a narrow front, and that is about all I know about it at this point. It "may" have last run in the early 80's. It has been in a barn out of the elements for its whole life.

My questions: would this tractor be much of a headache to get going? Would it be worth the headaches? Would it be able to do what I need it to do? Could a FEL be adapted for use, or is it just going to be too hard on the unit, and me? Would there be a solution that would work in substitution of the FEL?

I have no idea what IH 300 means other that its an IH. Does anyone have details about specs on the 300?

I am very mechanically gifted, but I have never worked on tractors. What would I need to do to successfully bring it out of storage and into at least running condition?

What would I need to do to bring it up to spec for what I need it to do?

What would be some easy, cheap mods, that would improve its function, ease of use, and safety?

Thanks for the help. I was looking at compacts, and then I looked at the pricing. Me no can afford new compact tractor. Some body told me to look at old utlity tractors, so here I am. Any help would be much appreciated.

Does an IH 300 have a CD changer or mobile entertainment system? Sorry, just kidding, he he!

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shannon

08-24-2001 11:23:50




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 Re: How Do I take an IH-300 out of Storage in reply to Ken Tajchman, 08-23-2001 11:45:08  
hello
i recently was in a situation such as you are in now, except the shed had fallen on my 350. it had sit probably for 10-15 years in a shed before i "rescued it" the 300 which is almost a twin to the 350 is a very good tractor, in favt i have one. it is a utility version though where yours is a farmall. if this tractor has been sitting in the dry for that long what is done is allready done, meaning that whatever seals are dry/broke are allready hopelessly gone, but this shouldnt be a problem as nothing leaked after i fired up my 350, so you shouldnt really be concerned about "hurting" it. the onlything major you may want to do is take out the spark plugs and fill the combustion chamber with wd40 or diesel fuel as the rings may be stuck in the ringland on the piston. you can estimate the condition of the rings by shining a light in the spark plug hole and looking at the cylinder (sleeve) wall if it is still nice and shiny. if it is i would give it only a light coat of wd40, or if it is corroded-looking i would let it soak for a week or two before attempting to turn it over, which will reduce the chance of scarring the cylinder wall. when you are satisifed change the oil and filter and crank it over with the spark plugs out (so it wont start) untill your oil pressure needle moves. you will want to check and see if you have a lot of wd40 left in the cylinder wall which you will want to suck out before changing your oil so that yu wont muck up good oil. then if everything turns over you will want to replace your plugs and perhaps your points if they look bad. if your points are bad i would just get an electronic ignitin costs 70$ verses 8$ but no more worries. next take a look in the gas tank with a flashlight if all looks good run with it, though you will want to drain out any bad gas, shouldnt be any left in it though. if it dyy and looks dirty a shop vac works wonders. check your radiator for fluid and grease the packing around your waterpump shaft in fact an all over greasing would be helpful. now if all goes well it should fire to life. as for my 350 all i did to it was tear the shed off of it, bent the steering wheel to an operable position canned the smashed exhaust, pulled the plugs looked at cylinders, checked fluids, put in gas, pulled it 50 yards until it started snd drove it te rest of the way home. it will pull 3 16's with little difficulty and has been running well ever since.

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Ken Tajchman

08-24-2001 07:11:41




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 Re: How Do I take an IH-300 out of Storage in reply to Ken Tajchman, 08-23-2001 11:45:08  
Thanks again guys,

The tractor is not going anywhere for now, so I have time to prepare. I was looking around the website for parts and stuff, however I was having trouble.

What number and letter combinatios do I need to look for to find appropraite parts and manuals?



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Zonie

08-23-2001 20:09:33




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 Re: How Do I take an IH-300 out of Storage in reply to Ken Tajchman, 08-23-2001 11:45:08  
As far as working on these old tractors goes you won't need too many specialized tools. You can fix about anything on them with a pair of pliers a screwdriver and a crescent wrench. Some of the newfangled tools do come in handy tho! Tools like a socket set, hydraulic jack, box end wernches.
I'm in the process of rebuilding my Farmall H (older brother to the 300) and the only specialized tool I've needed so far was a sleeve puller which I built.
These tractors were built so just about anyone could work on them with just a little mechanical ability. There's nothing to be afraid of!
I wish I could find a farmall 300 myself, if I did I'd be in trouble 'cause I couldn't pay for it anyway!
just my 2 cents worth!
Zonie

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Ken Tajchman

08-23-2001 17:22:32




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 Re: How Do I take an IH-300 out of Storage in reply to Ken Tajchman, 08-23-2001 11:45:08  
Thanks guys, this is just the type of info I need. As for the price... trust me it couldn't be a better price. The unit was used and fully functional through out its working life, through the 70's, and retired mid-early 80's. It was replaced,used occasionally, and then it was parked in the barn one day and never needed again.

A friend said to drain all the liquids, and refill all of the associated cavities completely full in order to rewet the dry gaskets. Then drain again and fill to the proper level.

This sounds like an extreme. Would this procedure be of any benefit?

Speaking of trannies and hydraulics... engines and hydraulics don't scare me in the least. Trannies however do. What do I need to look out for as far as identifying problems with the tranny and drivetrain? How hard is the tranny to work on? The thought of splitting the cases doesn't thrill me, but I would do it if it were't that involved (I.E. expensive specialty tools) a thing to do.

What is the likelihood there will be no... oops, almost jinxed it, ...few problems with the tranny, and what are they likely to be?

Would it have a 3ph and pto compatible with today's implements? If not what could be done to modernize it? Or would it need to be modernized? Would there be a "work around"?

I guess the tractor is inherently a mobile entertainment system, from what you guys are saying. I am almost frothing at the mouth to be out there on that thing. I must however be patient. This will come in time, and hard work.Thanks again, and keep 'em coming. My wife is patching my coveralls as I write, bless her.

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Bama Binder

08-24-2001 06:41:07




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 Re: Re: How Do I take an IH-300 out of Storage in reply to Ken Tajchman, 08-23-2001 17:22:32  
Regarding the question of the 3 point hitch, it may have already been converted or it may have just the original 2 point (which is relatively easy to convert to 3 point (I'm not sure of the cost). Or it may have hydraulics and no hitch...make sure of what you are getting.

As for transmission work, one of the other guys will have to help you. On my Super H, it had set for several years outside, so about half the fluid in the trans was water. Will I have problems with it...I don't know, but I do have better luck with tractors than I do with trucks and cars. BB

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Poppin' Johnny?

08-23-2001 13:33:45




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 Re: How Do I take an IH-300 out of Storage in reply to Ken Tajchman, 08-23-2001 11:45:08  
The 300 was the Super Hs replacment. It had a bit more power and the Torque Amplifier AVAILABLE. The engine should be ok as long as it is not stuck. But I've heard from a few that transmission bearings get pitted because they've sat so long without oil being splashed on them.



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Denny Frisk

08-23-2001 13:26:16




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 Re: How Do I take an IH-300 out of Storage in reply to Ken Tajchman, 08-23-2001 11:45:08  
With the good advise here You should be able to get the 300 running. Things to look for on the tractor as "Options" are the Fast Hitch on the back in place of the standard "U" shaped drawbar. Power Adjust wheels, with 5 or 6 "Z" shaped bars between the rear wheels and rear rims, and to the right side of the steering wheel are either 2 or 3 hydraulic levers, 2 is good, 3 is better. The lever to the left of the operator plateform is the Torque Amplifier, Pull the lever back and slow your travel speed 1/3 and increase Your pull power 45%, but keep the lever forward when going downhill. And the lever on the right rear side of the seat controls the live Power Take-off. Push the button down and move the lever rearward and the PTO should turn. Move the lever forward and it should stop. The 300 Farmall has 169 CID 4 cyl engine and makes about 35 to 38 HP at 1750 RPM and should pull a 2 bottom plow easily in 2nd or 3rd gear depending on conditions, or a 8 to 10 ft. disc. The 300 does a good job on sickel mowers, hat rakes, etc. The tractor probably weighs around 5000# depending on wether it has calcium chloride solution in the rear tires and wheel weights.

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Bama Binder

08-23-2001 12:50:08




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 Re: How Do I take an IH-300 out of Storage in reply to Ken Tajchman, 08-23-2001 11:45:08  
The tricycle front will make it a Farmall 300. They are good tractors made from 1955-56 I think. Both of the tractors I bought were in essentially the same condition...non-running. But the engines were free and both of them now run very well without major work.

I have a fair amount of mechanical ability and tractors are generally silly simple to work on unless you have to do major work. I get great enjoyment out of getting non-running tractors running again...almost as much fun as using them. So I think it is worh the headaches involved.

If the price is right (it shouldn't be priced any more then $500 or so...there are too many good runners out there for $1500 or so if you look a little) Having said that, I spent more than that on both of mine, but 1 had the asking price in implements and the other had the asking price in the wide front end.

If you get it, buy the operator's and service manuals first. Change ALL the fluids. Then i would squirt some oil into each cylinder and give it a compression test to check for stuck valves, etc. Drain old gas and check for junk in the tank...too junky you need to either clean and coat it or replace the tank. I would pull the carb and take it apart and soak in laquesr thinner and clean it thoroughly and rebuild it. If you have good compression and gas, pull a plug and check for spark by grounding it against the block. If you have a strong blue spark, all is well...no spark and I would replace the coil, points, condensor, distributor cap, plugs and plug wires (Actually I do that anyway.)

Check your tires and the condition of the sheetmetal before you buy...Tires are about $700 or so new and mounted. Sheetmetal is getting harder to find and more expensive. Look for missing parts...they will eat you alive at about $25-$150 at a time. Bad tires or bad sheet metal or several missing parts almost ensure I won't buy one...A complete, straight tractor with original paint that is not running can be a great bargain (maybe).

I know others have gone there, so they will no doubt add more info. Just beware of 2 things...

1. You will never get your money out of a tractor what you put into it unless you get a real bargain.

2. You will probably want more after you get the first one so bring your wallet...

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Bob M

08-23-2001 12:45:47




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 Re: How Do I take an IH-300 out of Storage in reply to Ken Tajchman, 08-23-2001 11:45:08  
I encountered pretty much the same situation with a Super H that sat unused the the back of an aunt's barn for 10 or so years. My son and I successfully got it going by doing the following:

1 - Drain the oil, install a new filter and refill the crankcase with fresh oil. If the tractor has live hydraulics check and refill the hyd reservoir.

2 - Remove the spark plug and squirt a couple ounces of motor oil into each cylinder - leave the plugs out for now.

3 - Remove the valve rocker box. Dump a quart of fresh oil over the rocker assemblies and leave the cover off.

4 - Using a hand crank, turn the motor over a few revolutions. Observe each pair of valves looking for any that are not moving (stuck open). If any are stuck try to free them up with some light tapping or turning with a vicegrips.

5 - Once your are satisfied the top end is OK, replace the rocker box, stick a new battery on and try cranking the motor (spark plugs still out). Crank until the oil gage registers anything above 0. This is to precharge the filter and internal oil passages.

6 - Remove the sediment bowl under the tank and clean it out. If there is any gas left in the tank, drain it out and discard it - it'll be NG. Reassemble the sediment bowl - good idea to use a new gasket when you do.

7 - Dump a few gallons of fresh gas into the tank and open the fuel shutoff. If you are lucky the carb won't begin dripping gas. If it does, shut off the gas and plan on doing a carb rebuild because the float is stuck.

8 - If the radiator is empty, fill it to about 1" of the top with plain water.

9 - Replace the plugs (recommend installing new ones....).

10 - Cross you fingers, turn on the ignition and crank her up. If you are lucky you'll be rewarded with a large cloud of oily blue smoke and a running tractor. Once you get it going, check for oil pressure, oil and water leaks.

Good luck!!

PS - The 300 was never offered with a CD player. However "open air conditioning" was standard equipment!

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Dick Davis

08-23-2001 18:23:48




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 Re: Re: How Do I take an IH-300 out of Storage in reply to Bob M, 08-23-2001 12:45:47  
Ken, lots of good advice posted here. If you do all this you can't go to wrong. That said... all this is a heck of a lot of work, why don't you just trade me sight unseen for an M I've got that runs all ready and isn't incumbered with LPTO or Live Hydraulics, comes with a regular draw bar (no meddlesome fast hitch or 3 point, no TA and all the tires hold air. Let me know right away as this offer could expire! Enjoy your project. Dick

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