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656 shifting problem

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Mark

08-15-2001 06:01:54




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My 656 is stuck in 4th gear, when I move the shifter into neutral its still in 4th, when I try another gear the engine will pull down and kill. Any ideas what happened? Thanks for any help.




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kev@ia

08-15-2001 18:46:22




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 Re: 656 shifting problem in reply to Mark, 08-15-2001 06:01:54  
Hello Mark, I know what your talking about, dads 544 uses the same shift setup. I made a new shifter shaft and built up some worn areas so that most of the shifting woes were curred back in Dec or Jan. The Quick fix that will help is to remove the casting that holds down the springs on top of the trany and put a short 1/4 bolt with the threaded portion in the spring and the head against the ball so it is under more preasure. Also make a bigger hole in the shaft that runs through the links so that the ball bearing can make nuteral more evident. Get a over length die makers dowl pin and grind to length as it will bear on unworn metal and remove a lot of slop. The factory pin is to short and wears to fast.
Check the archives as I posted about this before. Good luck and if you need more help just post for it.
kev

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Rob

08-15-2001 12:35:18




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 Re: 656 shifting problem in reply to Mark, 08-15-2001 06:01:54  
Jim has it correct, behind the battery there are three linkages,one of these you will see isn't lined up with the other two,probably the left one if it is in 4th gear. align all three and this will put it back in neutral,pry gentally and if you can have someone hold it the clutch. your linkages and pins are getting worn,usually not a problem in tranny.



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val j

08-15-2001 10:21:15




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 Re: 656 shifting problem in reply to Mark, 08-15-2001 06:01:54  
Don't worry about the forks etc. On the 656 is almost guaranteed to be in the linkage. A common problem with them.



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ont can

08-15-2001 08:06:11




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 Re: 656 shifting problem in reply to Mark, 08-15-2001 06:01:54  
The 656 my cousins had many years ago had the same proplem. It seemes to me there was a few roll pins in the linkage under the dash he use to replace from time to time. This tractor had alot of use in those days and his lads were rough on it too. This was part of his trouble.Check the linkages before you dig into the transmission. Good Luck



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Jim

08-15-2001 08:01:05




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 Re: 656 shifting problem in reply to Mark, 08-15-2001 06:01:54  
Pull off the battery cover below the steering wheel, the line up the 3 shift rods that go down from the top to the bottom behind the battery. We have to do this all the time on our 656.



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Phil Auten (Tx)

08-15-2001 06:22:29




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 Re: 656 shifting problem in reply to Mark, 08-15-2001 06:01:54  
Mark,
Sounds like the transmission is in two gears at once. You will need to remove the shift lever and reach in and put the shift forks back into neutral. Then reinstall the shifter. Should work ok until next time. I'm not sure how exactly to repair the shifter on a 656 as I don't have anything that new.

Phil



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Gary Chapman

08-15-2001 06:52:58




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 Re: Re: 656 shifting problem in reply to Phil Auten (Tx), 08-15-2001 06:22:29  
Had the same thing happen to my "M". Repaired the shift lever by welding approximately 1/8" material to the end of the lever. Lever had worn down so that it would come out of the slots when going from 2-3, 4-5, or vice versa.



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Mark A

08-15-2001 09:29:02




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 Re: Re: Re: 656 shifting problem in reply to Gary Chapman, 08-15-2001 06:52:58  
I just had the same problem, 3 days ago, on my Super C, except it was stuck in reverse. I pulled the shifter out, realigned the gears and welded approx. 3/16-1/4" to end of shifter. Ground end to the approximate shape of what was there. Now the shifter is tighter in gear, and hopefully



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