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Hauling my M

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JDM

08-13-2001 14:42:30




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Reckon my 98 K-1500 Chevy (Z71) will pull my M home when its ready.The trailer Im thinking about tradin' for is capable of haulin' it.The guys gonna weigh it in the morning ot see how much it weighs.(My guess around 3000 pds,give or take)




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Binder-Man

08-14-2001 19:23:53




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 Re: Hauling my M in reply to JDM, 08-13-2001 14:42:30  
You said it all gorilla--USE COMMON SENSE!!!!!



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speed bump

08-14-2001 18:42:52




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 Re: Hauling my M in reply to JDM, 08-13-2001 14:42:30  
JDM:
I AM AN AUTO INSURANCE AGENT. SPECIFICALLY, YOUR AUTO INSURANCE AGENT. Now that I got your attention, (he he) just food for thought: the insurance company will almost definately deny coverage for (God forbid) any accident that you may be involved in when exceeding the towing weight for the vehicle. so, BE WEARY.



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I didnt think of that!

08-14-2001 19:22:13




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 Re: Re: Hauling my M in reply to speed bump, 08-14-2001 18:42:52  
Guess i better check into that,huh?JDM



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gorilla

08-14-2001 18:25:55




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 Re: Hauling my M in reply to JDM, 08-13-2001 14:42:30  
I also have a heavy 3/4 chevy and use a bumper mount trailer to haul my Super M and My 460. My truck doesnt have a bit of problem handling the load. Just use a little common sense and dont pull it down the road at 80 mph.



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gorilla

08-14-2001 18:25:47




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 Re: Hauling my M in reply to JDM, 08-13-2001 14:42:30  
I also have a heavy 3/4 chevy and use a bumper mount trailer to haul my Super M and My 460. My truck doesnt have a bit of problem handling the load. Just use a little common sense and dont pull it down the road at 80 mph.



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Binder-Man

08-14-2001 16:56:33




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 Re: Hauling my M in reply to JDM, 08-13-2001 14:42:30  
If you are going to buy a trailer, spend it on a good goose neck, I had a tag trailer, bought a new goose neck last year have never been happier, I load my 1939 M and my 1937 F-20, I pull it with a 1975 Ford F-250 4x4 390 motor,tranny cooler,4-11 rear end Pulls like a dream!!



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WHOA!

08-14-2001 15:07:31




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 Re: Hauling my M in reply to JDM, 08-13-2001 14:42:30  
You guys said alot!And no.....I AM NOT NUTS!I appreciate all the inout from you guys!Even the "nuts" guy who isnt brave enough to give his name!I am going to give this some more thoguht!MAybe the wife will let me trade my truck on that nice new dually I looked at at the trailer place............Yea Right!



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are you nuts???

08-14-2001 18:35:02




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 Re: Re: Hauling my M in reply to WHOA!, 08-14-2001 15:07:31  
JDM,
no disrespect was intended. just trying to spice it up a little. (hey, i was the only one you replied to by name, too). anyway, didn't mean to call your Z71 small, but compared to the M...
you obviously have a heck of a lot more smarts than some because you came on here and asked for advice from others who have had similar experiences. whatever you decide...be careful and let us know when you do get that beauty home.
ps: if your wife does let ya get that dually, you will have to share your secrets with us. good luck.

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JDM

08-14-2001 19:19:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Hauling my M in reply to are you nuts???, 08-14-2001 18:35:02  
Weve already been talking abotu it.I have almost made my mind up on what to do.think Im going to wait a while,like next year.By the time I get it home it will be too late to take it to any shows around here this year,so I may just wait and have someone else at least get it ot the house for me.Only place it is really going is up to the graveyard to visit with my daddy and that within driving distance,only a couple of miles.He sure loved that thing amd I hope he wont be disappointed!After all,its for him.Thats the only thing he wanted me to do was to redtore his M and he didint live to see it.

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JDM..One More Thing

08-14-2001 15:11:01




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 Re: Re: Hauling my M in reply to WHOA!, 08-14-2001 15:07:31  
A Z71 aint so S-10!Thats a little truck!



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Farmalittle

08-14-2001 14:21:57




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 Re: Hauling my M in reply to JDM, 08-13-2001 14:42:30  
I don't claim to be an expert by any means, so I will only speak from experience. I hauled an MD using a beefed up car-hauler and my 1/2 ton Ford F-150 with a 4.2 L V-6. I had no problems whatsoever, and pulled it nearly 50 miles. I could take off and stop with ease.



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lee

08-14-2001 13:50:27




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 Re: Hauling my M in reply to JDM, 08-13-2001 14:42:30  
My guess is you'll do just fine. You won't be breaking any speed records, but you'll get there just fine.
By the way, how far ya goin.



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Haas

08-14-2001 11:30:06




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 Re: Hauling my M in reply to JDM, 08-13-2001 14:42:30  
Unless you are going a very short distance, I would not recommend using a 1/2 ton pickup to haul and M. I guess you are aware that unless the wheels are turned in on the M, you must have an over the wheels trailer. It will not fit between the wheels of a low trailer. The weight of the M plus trailer is too much for any long distance stuff on a 1/2 ton. If you use a tag a long, you must have an equalizer hitch and you must have trailer brakes and if you don't want to burn up your engine and transmission, you must have a transmission cooler and an engine oil cooler and you must stay out of overdrive. You need the coolers for both the tag a long and the goose neck, as the weight is what matters for keeping things cool. I don't think it is appropriate to put a goose neck hitch in a 1/2 ton. Reputable hitch installers will not do it, as they know your truck will be over loaded. The drive train is not built for it. I haul my MD with a gooseneck and a 99 Chevy Silverado 4x4 2500. I have hauled the MD and another smaller tractor, but only for short distances. The MD is more than enough for a long haul.

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are you nuts??

08-14-2001 04:25:12




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 Re: Hauling my M in reply to JDM, 08-13-2001 14:42:30  
you'd be way better off driving the little truck on the trailer and pulling it home with the M. At least you'd make it.



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Doc

08-13-2001 23:16:04




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 Re: Hauling my M in reply to JDM, 08-13-2001 14:42:30  
If you have a receiver hitch, 350 cid engine, automatic AND cooler, you should be okay. I tow a boat and trailer loaded at about 6500 lbs. similarly equipped no problems. Watch your loading, get enough tongue weight, maybe have to back the tractor on. I now hav a 2000 Silverado, tow the boat okay. I towed my M home this spring with a rented trailer, could only drive the tractor on forward, tongue was light, 40 miles at 20 MPH. that won't happen again. Be careful, good luck. Doc.

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speed bump

08-13-2001 21:08:02




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 Re: Hauling my M in reply to JDM, 08-13-2001 14:42:30  
jdm, that trailor better be a gooseneck on that light truck otherwise dont do it . it is too much weight on a rear hitch. I cant give you numbers but I know around my area no one would pull it with a 1500. just plain dangerous.



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Richard C

08-13-2001 18:18:51




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 Re: Hauling my M in reply to JDM, 08-13-2001 14:42:30  
I'd say just load it a little on the heavy side and take it easy. If you load it too far back it'll get squirley on you.



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jim

08-13-2001 15:37:10




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 Re: Hauling my M in reply to JDM, 08-13-2001 14:42:30  
JDM,Better add not take My book list a standard M at 4858 LBS.



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JDM

08-13-2001 18:47:27




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 Re: Re: Hauling my M in reply to jim, 08-13-2001 15:37:10  
Meant the trailer,but I was close on the weight in my guessing on the M.I figured 5000 with the weights.Hoping the trailer only goes around 3000,if thats the case I think ill be good to go!Preciate it!



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mark

08-14-2001 01:13:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Hauling my M in reply to JDM, 08-13-2001 18:47:27  
I'm a vehicle safety scientist, just wanted to make you aware of a few relevant issues. Many typical flatbed "car haulers" have a gross weight rating of 7000 pounds or less, including the weight of the trailer. That brings the absolute maximum net trailer load to 4500-5000 pounds or less, ASSUMING that there is a weight-equalizing hitch, perfect load centering, and no emergency maneuvers encountered. As just one example, an empty 4WD Suburban typically weighs in at about 5200-5500 lbs. Many bumper pull car hauler trailers simply cannot handle that big of a load.

1: Are tires on trailer and truck capable of carrying this weight? P-rated passenger car tires are not up to the job, especially if you hit a pothole or traverse even a short stretch of rough gravel or dirt road. This is one reason there is so much happiness going on with the Firestones on Explorers. In addition, trailer tires are often leftovers that are dry rotted and barely functional, so a maximum load is tempting tire failure.

2: Do not even think about this load with a 1/2-ton truck and a bumper pull trailer. The tongue load will be so far aft of the rear axle that you will be asking for trouble if you have to make any sort of emergency steering or braking maneuver. A heavy 3/4 ton pickup with a weight-equalizing hitch MAY be heavy-duty enough to pull this, but it would be borderline at best. A gooseneck trailer on a 1-ton dually or bigger would be a lot safer.

A bare Farmall 560 on a gooseneck flatbed strained a V-8 powered 8600-lb GVWR pickup to its limits recently. To have attempted to tow a bumper pull trailer with that load would have most probably damaged the truck, even if we managed to not crash into anything. The 560 is not that much bigger than an M. This trailer had double mobile home axles with electric brakes and heavy duty tires at 80 psi. The tires were too hot to touch after only hauling that thing for about 25 miles on good pavement with no stops, on a cold day in November.

Even a large travel trailer or a typical boat tends to be relatively large compared to their weight. Tractors on flatbeds are just the opposite, with tremendous weight concentrated in a relatively small package. Past experience with other trailers may not prepare you for these kinds of loads.

3: Does the trailer have adjustable electric or hydraulic brakes that are fully functional? If not, this is a disaster waiting to happen. Same goes for the rated load of the hitch ball. Some 2" hitch balls are only rated for 3000 pounds gross trailer load. The ball should have a heavy duty shank,rated for a minimum of 7500 lbs. A 2- 5/16" ball is a lot stronger.

4: Your truck owner's manual should have tow capacities listed. Do not exceed these rated loads! The manufacturers give the absolute highest possible tow rating for their vehicles, because it is a big selling point. This can vary widely with rear axle ratio, engine, etc.

5: Keep in mind that on many of today's 1/2-ton pickups, it violates the warranty to mount a slide-in overhead camper. So what do you think that suspension is capable of handling if it cannot handle a camper that barely exceeds 1000 pounds. Many 1/2 ton trucks have a max gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of 6200-6800 lbs. The load capacity of 3/4 ton trucks varies widely also, ranging typically from about 7200 lb to 8600 lb. The towing capacity of an 8600 lb pickup compared to a light duty 1/2 ton pickup is like night and day.

One last thing, it would be best to have D- or E- range tires on the tow vehicle.

Keep in mind that the speed of the tow vehicle imparts lots of energy to that heavy trailer/tractor combination. Keep the speed down so that you hage a semblance of braking and handling capability.

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Wheels

08-14-2001 12:50:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Hauling my M in reply to mark, 08-14-2001 01:13:23  
I guess I am in a sarcastic mood today. What do you recommend for hauling a 560? A Semi with a triple axle lowboy trailer. My 560 with 14.9x38 tires weighs 6750 when I am on it. The width is 85 inches and we could slide the wheels in 2 more inches on each side before we would have to turn the center castings. They are currently set dished out. We have hauled it on a bumper mount trailer behind a 3/4 to pickup and the pickup is still in one piece. Our trailer is more than heavy enough as we have hauled a 12,000 steel tanks on it, pulling them with a tractor. We have 16.5 inch tires on it and usually buy them at auctions. Haven't had one blow out yet (I will stress YET). Also I have friends who load a 1206 and 656 on a fifth wheel trailer pulled by a 3/4 ton. Both of tractors have duals and weights. They haven't wrecked a pickup yet and they go to several tractor pulls a year. Both of us use a brand of truck you guys have been spelling backwards lately. We also use our heads when hauling a load and haven't had problems. (Knock on wood)

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Well put

08-14-2001 12:58:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hauling my M in reply to Wheels, 08-14-2001 12:50:47  
Thank you.



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