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10-20 does any one have one fitted with PTO

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08-08-2001 01:08:56

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still trying to fit power take off shaft to my tractor has any body seen one or are thay an farm mith thanks oldtime

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Bob Kerr

08-08-2001 22:10:40

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 Re: 10-20 does any one have one fitted with PTO in reply to oldtime, 08-08-2001 01:08:56  
Dick and I seem to agree on most things, but it has been my experiance that most 10-20s around here in Indiana don't have PTO shafts.It could be that most farmers here jumped on the farmall regular/F-12/F-20/F-30 bandwagon early in these parts. I have 3 10-20s and only one has PTO. That was one reason I bought that tractor as it is in very bad shape. I have only seen 3 other ones at shows with PTOs and two of them had different setups than the one I have.I can send you a picture of one that was at the IHC collectors national meet in Lebanon last winter that has an extension with a u-joint like thing attached. it looks like it was made to keep the driveshaft from rubbing the rear platform.I do not have anyidea if it was original or not or was made up by someone.If it was made by someone , they were good! I was talking with a guy at Rushville IN Pioneer Engineers Club show last weekend and he had 3 10-20s there at the show. One of them had PTO and had the back part of the platform cut off to clear the shaft.The platform on my parts tractor is not cut off. We were trying to think what implements they had back then to run off PTO. All we could come up with was a pull type corn picker.After I got home I looked in my books and saw they had a PTO grain binder, a PTO potato digger,and what appears to be a pull type PTO 1 row corn picker.I would be interested if anyone knows of other machines that were made in the late 20s with PTOs.The tractors I am talking about are all built around 1927-1930. I am sure more 10-20s built later had PTOs.One thing is for sure, the 10-20 PTO shaft is very high up and it might be hard to get anything modern to work well with it and have the Ujoints stay in good shape for very long. The rated RPM for the PTO on a 10-20 was 543 RPM.(by the way, no I do not want to sell the PTO shaft off my parts tractor. I may find a potato digger for it someday!)

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Dick (IL)

08-08-2001 04:54:06

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 Re: 10-20 does any one have one fitted with PTO in reply to oldtime, 08-08-2001 01:08:56  
Most, if not all 10-20s had pto. The shaft end is under the small cover secured with 4 screws at the rear of the bull gear cover. The pto shaft is unique, being threaded instead of the usual splined shaft. Shafts for driving pto driven eqipment had a mating yoke with internal female threads that screwed on the pto shaft. Years ago adapters were available that allowed splined shaft equipment to be used. I haven't seen one of those in a while. You could have a machinist make a new one. Or find an original driven shaft with a threaded yoke and weld a splined shaft adapter to it. This would be a job for a professional as well.

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08-09-2001 16:21:06

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 Re: Re: 10-20 does any one have one fitted with PTO in reply to Dick (IL), 08-08-2001 04:54:06  
mt 10-20 is a 1923 model i have my own engineering shop and would like to make a pto shaft but pulling the gearbox out to look at the threaded shaft what a job !need to do this to match the thread . thanks and greetings oldtime (australia)

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Bob Kerr

08-10-2001 00:09:33

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 Re: Re: Re: 10-20 does any one have one fitted with PTO in reply to oldtime, 08-09-2001 16:21:06  
If you buy me a pint next time your in the states, I will go to out and pull the shaft out of my 10-20 and try to measure it. I say try because I do not have any micrometers.If I can get it out, I could take it to a machine shop and see if they will measure it for me for free.They might even draw up a blue print of it. If I remember right the one on my tractor has had a splined shaft welded on the end. It has been over a year since I looked at that shaft. I will send you the pic I have of the one I saw at the IH national meeting last winter.

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