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Mike Fitz

11-19-2023 08:12:09

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Hello everyone! I'm currently working on my 450, it has a leaky radiator that needs to go to the shop. While I'm doing this I 'm going to try to tighten up the steering some as it has a pretty bad wobble,I've turned the gear on the steering post in the past with some Improvement. Anyway I've come across a LP super M at a salvage yard with a nice manifold I'm going to get, and may pull the head too as long as I'm there, I'm wondering if the Super M's steering gears are the same as the 450, I would get them at the same time, on the chance they might be better than the ones I have now.

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Mike Fitz

11-20-2023 07:14:52

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 Re: Stearing gears in reply to Mike Fitz, 11-19-2023 08:12:09  
Thanks for the replies! I don't know if the gears in the M are better or not, but as long as I'm there they will come home with me. Mike

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D Slater

11-19-2023 14:55:27

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 Re: Stearing gears in reply to Mike Fitz, 11-19-2023 08:12:09  
With standard steering the worm gear shaft is shorter unless shaft is from a SMD or SMTA gas or diesel. Also two long for IH equipped power steering on a 450. Shafts to long can be made shorter with new keyway put in if wanted and work. Full circle sector gear is the same.

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11-19-2023 13:26:53

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 Re: Stearing gears in reply to Mike Fitz, 11-19-2023 08:12:09  
Hi Mike, i am not a expert getting wobble out of the front end, but i got a pretty low hour M, never wobbled until i put some 35 lbs wheel weight that bolt to the front cast iron wheels, darn did that ever make it WOBBLE, so i took them off as fast i put them on, but check and see if the housing where the horizontal bearing sits, if that oblong? If it is, maybe you can shim up the hole so to speak, to get it closer to the flat gear, that's a place to start, those gears last a quite while!

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used red MN

11-19-2023 10:16:24

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 Re: Stearing gears in reply to Mike Fitz, 11-19-2023 08:12:09  
Per the CHNI online parts catalog. The gears will be the same, the shafts will also be the same if you do NOT have power steering. I had to go to an alternate source to get the (key 69) PS shaft number, but it can easily be seen that the shaft is shorter on a PS tractor. It helped to know the PS torque generator sets over the engine.

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