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CFB

09-22-2022 14:59:41




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Hello,

a couple people in a tractor club own a Cub and is a nice small tractor for my yard. This one comes with a front blade which interested me to plow my 300 foot gravel drive. I have an old Ford 16HP diesel, but just not strong enough to make normal passes in heavier snow.
I have not seen it yet. The owner said low hours (but I did not ask how many). The owner said it sat a while - always in a barn - but a little cleaning of the carb and fresh gas, it started right up and runs really well.
What sort of things should I look for and ask?

thank you. carl

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AlinMO

09-25-2022 13:30:57




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 Re: Almost ready to buy a Farmall Cub in reply to CFB, 09-22-2022 14:59:41  
" I did find out it has the blade - Oh, and is it true that it also doubles as a grader if mid-mounted - or was that a special option?"

The blade could mount either up front or in the middle - not a special option. As you said the middle is the grading position. It could do a good job grading if the material was loose or soft.



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mr.precision

09-25-2022 12:59:58




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 Re: Almost ready to buy a Farmall Cub in reply to CFB, 09-22-2022 14:59:41  
That's interesting about the broken crank.

My 61 Cub standard has had a low RPM knock since I got it. Comes and goes. I replaced the rod bearings which made no difference. I assume it is the wristpin. Goes away with RPM (or can't hear it). Hot oil pressure is great. Doesn't seem to be getting worse.

BTW mine has a mid mount scraper, which is Ok for leveling the driveway gravel but useless for anything else. Particularly in rocky soil.

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Tom in Mo.

09-23-2022 14:51:29




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 Re: Almost ready to buy a Farmall Cub in reply to CFB, 09-22-2022 14:59:41  
My first cub was a 1957 that had a broken crank right behind the belt pully and seal and the fella I bought it from replaced the crank before I bought it.
Second cub I bought it with a broken crank and could plainly hear it barking while it ran.
Third cub I looked at it at an auction and it ran great but I could hear the knocking of the broken crank at the sale so didn't buy it.
Also had a couple with no issues.
Note that they all ran fine with the break. The break was just behind the seal before the bearing so there was no load on it except for the pulley load and the knocking was just the two ends of the shaft banging on each other.
This post was edited by Tom in Mo. on 09/23/2022 at 02:55 pm.

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Fritz Maurer

09-23-2022 15:48:51




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 Re: Almost ready to buy a Farmall Cub in reply to Tom in Mo., 09-23-2022 14:51:29  
Did you change the crank yourself? Im asking because if you did, you would see first hand: what kept the broken piece from falling out the front?



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J.Wondergem

09-23-2022 09:00:09




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 Re: Almost ready to buy a Farmall Cub in reply to CFB, 09-22-2022 14:59:41  
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And maybe he's just unlucky.



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muleboss

09-23-2022 07:22:22




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 Re: Almost ready to buy a Farmall Cub in reply to CFB, 09-22-2022 14:59:41  
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I have owned many cubs for many years (have 12 now) .I have never had that problem and not even heard of it. Maybe I am just lucky.



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Brown Dirt Cowboy

09-23-2022 07:06:12




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 Re: Almost ready to buy a Farmall Cub in reply to CFB, 09-22-2022 14:59:41  
Kevin, that disc will work better if you put some angle to those disc blades



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CFB

09-23-2022 06:47:08




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 Re: Almost ready to buy a Farmall Cub in reply to CFB, 09-22-2022 14:59:41  
Quote: CVPost-grandpa Love (quoted from post at 06:00:13 09/23/22) Tom, 30+ cubs and I've never heard of
such a thing, am I just lucky??


Thank you for all of your responses. Excellent advice. I hope to go see it today or Saturday on my own. Then Monday, my friend in the club who does have a Cub offered to go with me which will be a big help. I've made a list of questions now and feel fairly informed in going and will balance that with the emotion to get this little guy. I did find out it has the blade - Oh, and is it true that it also doubles as a grader if mid-mounted - or was that a special option?), a single blade rotary belly mower, a single 12" plow with discs.
Here is a picture of my little Ford from 1989. Hard to get parts any more. My drive is relatively flat, some cement and some gravel, I use chains but there is a little dip on both sides of the drive and if I go over too far, it is almost impossible for me to back up.
I have been thinking about this for a few years now. Had been considering a Kubota or Deere sub-compact. Mainly to have the loader and a bit more power in the woods to haul out wood. I am thinking now more toward an Oliver 550 or 1265, or similar size (I can drive it too in a parade) , just with a loader and then when, if the time comes, I can just get a new mower - and overall, spend less. So still evaluating that.

sorry, my picture isn't uploading. I'll have to try later. This post was edited by CFB on 09/23/2022 at 08:28 am.

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Mike Groom

09-23-2022 05:53:33




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 Re: Almost ready to buy a Farmall Cub in reply to CFB, 09-22-2022 14:59:41  
The gearing is the big difference in the two tractors, the rearend on the Ford won't take the abuse that the Cub will. Horse power vs. torque, the Cub wins.



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grandpa Love

09-23-2022 05:46:21




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 Re: Almost ready to buy a Farmall Cub in reply to CFB, 09-22-2022 14:59:41  
Cultivator on a cub



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grandpa Love

09-23-2022 05:44:04




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 Re: Almost ready to buy a Farmall Cub in reply to CFB, 09-22-2022 14:59:41  
How about a video of some of my cubs in the garden?



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Fritz Maurer

09-23-2022 05:19:17




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 Re: Almost ready to buy a Farmall Cub in reply to CFB, 09-22-2022 14:59:41  
Need to know the model of tractor that you are comparing the Cub to. Hard to make a comparison based only on horsepower.... tractor weight is more of a factor in moving snow than horsepower. Just guessing, a 16 horsepower Ford other than a garden tractor would be a model 1200. IF your old diesel Ford is in fact a 1200, the weight is a little over 1300 pounds. The Cub at 1800 pounds would be an improvement, provided the tractor is set up properly (tire chains, for instance), over the 1200, 6 less hp. notwithstanding. Also bear in mind that part of the horsepower calculation is the speed it takes to move a certain load. Any Jap diesel in a Ford turns approximately 3000 rpm whereas the Cub turns about 1800rpm. So, at the flywheel, the Cub and the 1200 are reasonably close, with the heavier tractor being the victor.

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Tom in Mo.

09-23-2022 04:35:38




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 Re: Almost ready to buy a Farmall Cub in reply to CFB, 09-22-2022 14:59:41  
I have owned several Cubs and looked at many more. Listen for a knock in the engine. That'll be the broken crankshaft that breaks right behind the front pully/front seal. If no knock, then likely the crank has already been replaced which is good because they have an excellent chance of breaking.

They will run fine with the crank broke here but usually knock.



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grandpa Love

09-23-2022 06:00:13




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 Re: Almost ready to buy a Farmall Cub in reply to Tom in Mo., 09-23-2022 04:35:38  
Tom, 30+ cubs and I've never heard of such a thing, am I just lucky??



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old

09-23-2022 15:03:33




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 Re: Almost ready to buy a Farmall Cub in reply to grandpa Love, 09-23-2022 06:00:13  
In all my years I have worked on engines I have only run in to one broken crank shaft and that was in a 60s VW bug engine. The owner asked me to fix it and when I was opening it up to see what was wrong part of the crank shaft fell and hit my foot which didn't feel good



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G.S.G.

09-23-2022 03:30:11




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 Re: Almost ready to buy a Farmall Cub in reply to CFB, 09-22-2022 14:59:41  
I have had a cub since early 70's. Used it to mow lawn (+2 acres) for 25 years. Now use it only for plowing snow and plowing garden. It is part of the family and hope to pass it along to a member of the family. Along with the mower deck, I have a front blade, plow, disc, and a cycle bar mower. The tractor has hydraulic with a 1-point quick hitch. It a fun little tractor to drive.



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BearGap

09-23-2022 01:54:29




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 Re: Almost ready to buy a Farmall Cub in reply to CFB, 09-22-2022 14:59:41  
I have used a cub on our farm for 30 years, and it is a fine little tractor. One of the nice things is that it is very easy to drive and the wife and kids had no problem using it. Make sure the one you are interested in has hydraulics. Accessories like the front plow, sickle bar mower, and belly mower (all of which I have) are unique to the cub, so anything you can get with the tractor is good. I used to plow snow and move bedding with ours, and you absolutely will need wheel weights or some other weight over the rear to do that effectively. I now use a bigger tractor (Ford Jubilee) for snow, but I was able to clear snow over a foot deep from my 300+ ft drive with the cub before, although sometimes I had to hurl the tractor into the pile to make progress. The bigger and heavier tractor has a lot less of an issue. These days the cub is mostly used for mowing in tight areas and for spreading manure and gets used every week year around.

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tractorguy2

09-22-2022 21:05:03




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 Re: Almost ready to buy a Farmall Cub in reply to CFB, 09-22-2022 14:59:41  
My neighbor had a 55 Cub with rear blade. He used it for moving snow. Used chains on the tires. The blade would only raise up about 8 inches.

I used a Ford 4000 and other neighbor had a 801 diesel. I don't recall either of us having to pull the Cub out of the snow.



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Jim in NC

09-22-2022 20:43:46




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 Re: Almost ready to buy a Farmall Cub in reply to CFB, 09-22-2022 14:59:41  
How much snow do you have to deal with each winter? That would seem to go a long way towards what kind of tractor to get. I grew up next to a neighbor farmer that had a Cub and my grandpa who owned a Super A. Both used them in the winter with a Farmall front mounted blade. Both were happy with the work the tractors did. After having used both I'd prefer a Super A. I know that's not what you asked. I think you would be surprised by a cub, and you would have to get some experience operating one to get the most out of it. In heavy snow most likely you would need to push the snow multiple times as it fell and accumulated to keep your driveway clear.

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CFB

09-22-2022 19:01:41




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 Re: Almost ready to buy a Farmall Cub in reply to CFB, 09-22-2022 14:59:41  
Thanks so much. Good advice by all. I guess I did not realize what the Cub's HP was. And I guess I was thinking the larger AG tires would help me push snow better than my Ford. But I know it would be fun to have and drive in parades.
I'll call the owner tomorrow but I'm pretty sure there is a plow included. If the Cub is lacking power ( maybe that is an incorrect assumption - 10hp Cub vs my 16hp Ford lawn/garden/tractor), how does it plow the garden up? Would it struggle at that?

thanks again to everyone.

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Old Ford Mechanic

09-22-2022 19:46:49




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 Re: Almost ready to buy a Farmall Cub in reply to CFB, 09-22-2022 19:01:41  
The Cub is a good gardening tractor with its front mounted cultivator. Also a good mowing tractor with a belly mounted mower. It does not have the weight or horsepower to push wet snow or dirt well at all. It will handle a single disc plow and do a decent job with it in good soil. Not so great in rocky ground. A trade up to a larger compact tractor with 4WD with a box blade or loader would be the answer to your driveway maintenance.

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old

09-22-2022 19:33:05




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 Re: Almost ready to buy a Farmall Cub in reply to CFB, 09-22-2022 19:01:41  
As per the HEB test the Farmall Cub come in at 12HP but if your Ford is a riding lawn mower type tractor the Cub can work circles around it but if your Ford is a compact tractor the Cub may not work as well.



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riverbend

09-23-2022 03:57:53




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 Re: Almost ready to buy a Farmall Cub in reply to old, 09-22-2022 19:33:05  
It does seem like the lawn mower horses are smaller than the farm tractor horses. Many make more power than my H.



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SinkholeRoad

09-22-2022 17:17:23




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I am a fan of the Farmall Cub. I also recommend buying one if it seem to be a good buy. However, do not but it expecting it to do what the 16 hp ford diesel can do.

Check for leaks once warmed up, check for smoking exhaust, clutch action, tire condition, etc.



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grandpa Love

09-22-2022 16:08:40




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 Re: Almost ready to buy a Farmall Cub in reply to CFB, 09-22-2022 14:59:41  
If it runs and drives and the price is right get it! Third Party Image Maybe less HP than your ford but a cub is a strong little tractor!



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wore out

09-22-2022 15:30:50




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 Re: Almost ready to buy a Farmall Cub in reply to CFB, 09-22-2022 14:59:41  
Your 16HP Ford is 1/4 ''bigger'' than your prospective Cub!



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