Super W-4 starter removal ?

jCarroll · Sep 12, 2022

My brother (many miles away)needs to remove the starter. After removing the two capscrews he is not able to finagle the starter out of the clutch housing. Is there a trick to this, or is he not holding his mouth right - as our Dad used to say ?

used red MN · Sep 12, 2022

A Super likely has 3 bolts. Not sure but you may want to pull the battery if you do not want to grunt it over the top of it.

fastfarmall · Sep 12, 2022

Well on a M Diesel, you got to take the belt Pulley housing off, to get the nose of the starter out!

BarnyardEngineering · Sep 12, 2022

(quoted from post at 12:02:32 09/12/22) A Super likely has 3 bolts. Not sure but you may want to pull the battery if you do not want to grunt it over the top of it.

Stage I Supers only had 2 bolts in the starter, at least on H's.

used red MN · Sep 12, 2022

In reply to BY, ..likely.. equals ..could have.. he does
not tell us the year.

rustred · Sep 12, 2022

only 2 1/2inch bolts. battery nothing to do with it.

rustred · Sep 12, 2022

no tricks,... remove the belt pulley as there is no wiggle room with it on.

mccormicksw4 · Sep 12, 2022

all W4s and SW4 have two 1/2" bolts like rust says the only thing I would add to the belt pulley removal is to take the bolts out of the bracket the throttle rod and choke rod goes through on the top of the clutch cover. it makes it a little easier to wiggle the starter out of there with those rods up a little
. I cannot find the bracket in the parts manual buy I circled where it goes

jCarroll · Sep 13, 2022

Thanks for your answer and the parts picture.

John M · Sep 13, 2022

I pulled my starter on my old I-4 twice and never removed the belt pulley. remove as many of the cover bolts as you can get to, pry up on the cover near the starter and rotate, wigggle and snort just right and it comes right out.

mccormicksw4 · Sep 13, 2022

(quoted from post at 09:29:53 09/13/22) I pulled my starter on my old I-4 twice and never removed the belt pulley. remove as many of the cover bolts as you can get to, pry up on the cover near the starter and rotate, wigggle and snort just right and it comes right out.

theres only 4 bolts with one under the belt pulley gearbox. it won't lift much at all esp with the brass breather tube fitting in the back of the head. will lift 3/16 " max at that fitting

mccormicksw4 · Sep 13, 2022

I circled the wrong hole. its below that one

John M · Sep 14, 2022

It doesnt need to come up very much at all. In fact it wont come up very much, but will just enought to wiggle out the starter. If
I still had it I would shoot a video and show it can be done.

mccormicksw4 · Nov 25, 2022

(quoted from post at 04:29:01 09/14/22) It doesnt need to come up very much at all. In fact it wont come up very much, but will just enought to wiggle out the starter. If
I still had it I would shoot a video and show it can be done.

I have taken dozens of W4 starters off but give you the benefit of the doubt since you seem to be knowledgeable
You cannot get the starter off by lifting the clutch cover. just not possible. I took one off today. see pic- the clutch cover is as high as it can go up against the belt pulley gear box. I saw some else make the same claim as you on FB but I am sorry it won't work. The starter will not clear the belt pulley gar box
If someone can prove me wrong have at it

mccormicksw4 · Nov 25, 2022

(quoted from post at 04:29:01 09/14/22) It doesnt need to come up very much at all. In fact it wont come up very much, but will just enought to wiggle out the starter. If
I still had it I would shoot a video and show it can be done.

I have taken dozens of W4 starters off but give you the benefit of the doubt since you seem to be knowledgeable
You cannot get the starter off by lifting the clutch cover. just not possible. I took one off today. see pic- the clutch cover is as high as it can go up against the belt pulley gear box. I saw some else make the same claim as you on FB but I am sorry it won't work. The starter will not clear the belt pulley gar box
If someone can prove me wrong have at it

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