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Mounting a live Hyd. pump

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Tinks 1996

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I'm looking for some offset studs to mount a live hyd. pump on a M Farmall. I have used them on another M and that way didn't have to update the front cover, they came with the other used pump I installed. Anyone know where I can find them ? Thanks
 
Big U bolt has held my live pump on M for
last 40 plus years. You have to be a
little clever with the bracket the bolt
attaches to. Bolts like you mention would
look better.
 
Have one made. But remember the cam gear drives the pump and is weak if original. They do break at the hub or strip. If replacing the gear, replace the front cover and
all is well. Late H super H or 300/350 Farmall. Jim
 
Just FYI, none of those tractors Jim mentioned will have parts that interchange onto an M. You will need parts from a late Super M, Super MTA, 400 or 450. Sorry Jim!
 
OH BOY, I forget his name, but he was famous on the Internet boards for all the modifications he made to his
W-6 to make it a better more useful tractor. A crankshaft driven hyd pump was one of his modifications. On a
W-6 there is a cast in hole concentric with the crankshaft, a Lovejoy coupling is about all that's needed to
drive the pump. On the M,SM, etc, the steering shaft from the sector gears down through the lower bolster are
directly in the way, dead center in the tractor blocking any attempt to bore a hole to mount a pump. You would
have to mount a pump parallel with the crankshaft, drive it with a short toothed timing belt. Once you have a
pump you can add as many spool valves as you want to run loaders, blades, backhoes, or 3-pt hitches.
There's a definite limit to the PSI & flow a camshaft driven pump can produce. Depending on how the drive
is designed and assembled even a construction tractor can suffer hyd pump drive failure. I had to chase parts
in the Boss's truck when the spine coupler and splined hyd pump shaft striped out on the Township's Case 530
Construction King tractor/loader/backhoe. The dipper on the hoe was heading straight down to the bottom of a 6
ft deep hole.
 
(quoted from post at 12:37:32 09/06/22) OH BOY, I forget his name, but he was famous on the Internet boards for all the modifications he made to his
W-6 to make it a better more useful tractor. A crankshaft driven hyd pump was one of his modifications. On a
W-6 there is a cast in hole concentric with the crankshaft, a Lovejoy coupling is about all that's needed to
drive the pump. On the M,SM, etc, the steering shaft from the sector gears down through the lower bolster are
directly in the way, dead center in the tractor blocking any attempt to bore a hole to mount a pump. You would
have to mount a pump parallel with the crankshaft, drive it with a short toothed timing belt. Once you have a
pump you can add as many spool valves as you want to run loaders, blades, backhoes, or 3-pt hitches.
There's a definite limit to the PSI & flow a camshaft driven pump can produce. Depending on how the drive
is designed and assembled even a construction tractor can suffer hyd pump drive failure. I had to chase parts
in the Boss's truck when the spine coupler and splined hyd pump shaft striped out on the Township's Case 530
Construction King tractor/loader/backhoe. The dipper on the hoe was heading straight down to the bottom of a 6
ft deep hole.
Click to expand...

Was the guys name Warner? There was another guy, maybe tcmtech who gutted some of the steering bolster and mounted a modern pump on his M straight off the crankshaft.
 
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