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budaa

05-18-2001 06:22:14




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Guys,
I was wondering if I can put a hyd pump on my H. I have a saginaw three point and the belly pump does not do the job i need it to do. Such as lifting a six foot disc. What would it take to do this. I see that the super H has live hyd. Could I take something off of a super H and make it work on my 52 H.

CHUCK




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Charlie

05-19-2001 07:13:53




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 Re: live hyd on H in reply to budaa, 05-18-2001 06:22:14  
You want to make sure your pump has 30 wt, non detergent oil, not hydraulic oil. My neighbor just put a live pump on his H. He added a M & W pump and used the belly pump as a reservoir. Turned out the belly pump doesn't hold enough oil for his application. The addition of the IH pump for an H requrires changing the plate underneath the front cover on the engine so your looking at a substantial amount of work to add one.

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speed bump

05-18-2001 20:48:04




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 Re: live hyd on H in reply to budaa, 05-18-2001 06:22:14  
check your pressure with a gauge , should be 750 to 850 pounds with the belly pump. I have the same hitch and it could lift my truck . it has 3 by 8 cylinders. I suspect your pump isnt puttin out enough pressure. speed bump



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budaa

05-19-2001 18:20:24




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 Re: Re: live hyd on H in reply to speed bump, 05-18-2001 20:48:04  
Speed Bump
Do you have the saginaw three point on an H and if so is it hooked to a belly pump. Also I am wondering if this three point is hooked up right.
The guy that i bought it from has all three outlets on the belly pump hooked to the hitch. Both the two on the left and also the outlet on the right. In the owners manual it says that the one on the right should be pluged if the other two are hooked to cylinders. Any chance you could let me know how yours if hooked up. Thanks in advance.
CHUCK

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gene b

05-18-2001 20:23:19




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 Re: live hyd on H in reply to budaa, 05-18-2001 06:22:14  
check your hy pressure then look at what the bore of the cyclinder the rest is simple math



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Michael Soldan

05-18-2001 17:14:59




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 Re: live hyd on H in reply to budaa, 05-18-2001 06:22:14  
Budaa, the super H had a pump that could be mounted between the Mag and the engine, the pump wasn't very wide and there was room for it , I believe the reservoir was in the same place as your belly pump is located. You could likely find one somewhere but I wouldn't go there yet. Your H should lift a disc and often the reason for failure is due to the kind of rams you are using. I believe larger rams ie) 3" as opposed to 21\2" will lift better or go 4". You can also boost the pressure in your liftall by adding a washer to the mechanism to amp your pressure. A farmall guy explained it to me and said it was a simple task but I've never done it but I'll bet someone can fill us in on beefing up the out put of the H hydraulic. You should be able to lift a 6'disc. I'd start with the rams. Good luck from Mike in Exeter Ontario

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