Super C wide front end attachment improvement

560Dennis

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Madison,Ohio

Any thing that I can you to make the tractor steer easier? I bought larger h and m steering wheel to put on it. I have not checked the spindle shaft bushings .
 
On our 230 which is the same front end we found the Knee was bent on one side. Had to be cut loose and rewelded. Jack it up in the air and see how it steers. Might have to disconnect one tie rod or the other if really stiff. Could be a bad tie rod ends.
 
Have heard wide fronts just turn harder than narrow front. Is it just harder because of the style of front end? Might be your answer if its a little bit harder. But if its a lot harder, you got something worn out or needs to be greased.
 
I've got a wide front end on mine and it steers pretty well. Maybe some water got into the steering box and a bearing is getting rusted. Had that happen on my 100.
 
4 things might be issues. The U joints and shaft supports to the box. The box lubricant might be gone, or stiff old grease (corn head grease can fix that) The bearings and bushings in the box could be worn to the point they are binding. And the bushings and thrust bearings in the uprights on either or both sides could be worn or not lubricated.
The narrow front turns by rolling one tire forward the other back. A wide front pivots each tire in one place. A single front turns way harder than a narrow for that reason. When moving they all three should be modestly easy. if tough when moving, there are lube or wear issues. Jim
 
Compared to the narrow front, the wide front is a pig to steer. It is much better if you are moving.
Greg
 
We had one we used for years back in the day and it was mean to turn especially with full front mounted planters and 300 plus pounds of fertilizer in soft soil. I have said before, mussel up! Those old tractors were a vast improvement over the mules and horses they replaced, but ergonomics did not come until later. If you want the experience like it was be prepared for some hard turning and do not try to turn without having the tractor in motion. Otherwise, do verify that you do not have a dry fitting or worm box somewhere but do not expect that those types of corrections will completely solve your problem.
 
It would be easy to put a CHAR-LYNN unit on a C You already have the hydraulics to power it. The electric ones would also work but you would need to go to 12v for it to work.
 
Keeping the front tires aired up to their maximum recommended pressure can help reduce the steering effort. On my wide front 350 I just don't plan on doing much steering unless I'm moving.
 
Back in the mid seventies a neighbor bought a new 140 and it was terrible to steer. He took it back and they took it apart. It turned out that it had sit on the lot out in the weather so long that the bearings rusted in it. The box was rebuilt and it was fine. Still had it when he died 4 yrs ago. Its still in the same barn and his grandson has it now.
 
(quoted from post at 10:19:06 11/27/21)I have not checked the spindle shaft bushings .

You should do that before you admit defeat.

Putting power steering on would just mask any problem you have. It may overload a 12V unit and burn it out. Nobody has really explored the limits of the 12V units yet.

What's your idea of "hard?" It's not going to be one-finger steering, but I've never noticed any undue force required steering my Super C even sitting still.

There is nothing mysterious or unusual about a Super C's steering mechanism so the usual troubleshooting and fixes will apply.
 

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