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Super M Pilot Bearing

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Darryl 2Ms

07-21-2021 18:14:05




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Hey guys. Started tearing into my Super M trans. The pilot bearing on the mainshaft is VERY worn. The Case IH website has 3 choices for this bearing. Are they all different? Or same? My part number on the bearing is Bower MU-5205- CL. Does the new bearing come with an outer race too? I appreciate all the help i get here. You guys never fail me! Thanks Darryl




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CenTex Farmall

07-22-2021 16:00:38




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 Re: Super M Pilot Bearing in reply to Darryl 2Ms, 07-21-2021 18:14:05  
From aftermarket sources you typically buy the two halves separately. The rollers can be caged in the outer or the inner ring; doesn't matter which.

5205 is the basic metric size for that bearing and the prefix and suffix (based on the manufacturer) tell you if it's the ring or the rollers and if there is flanges or not. There are multiple configurations for roller bearings. Obviously one half has to have no flanges so that you can assemble the thing. Look online for PDF catalog from a specific bearing manufacturer and it will explain their naming system and product configuration. Bower is part of NTN now and I can't remember if they have a Bower catalog or if it will be in an NTN catalog.

Because of the standardized metric bearing standards and 5205 ball bearing will fit right in there. So will a double row ball bearing. Just for illustration purposes, you want the roller bearing in there as it has a higher load capacity.

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FBH44

07-22-2021 07:40:00




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 Re: Super M Pilot Bearing in reply to Darryl 2Ms, 07-21-2021 18:14:05  
Just BTW, I was advisied by my old IHC mechanic who I bought my H from, to get the flywheel all lined up and give that pilot bearing one shot of grease the day after Christmas.



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used red MN

07-22-2021 09:56:27




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 Re: Super M Pilot Bearing in reply to FBH44, 07-22-2021 07:40:00  
FBH, he is talking about an internal transmission bearing that ..pilots.. the trans main shaft or upper shaft into the back of the input shaft. Not the clutch pilot bearing. Number 72 in the link.

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used red MN

07-21-2021 22:04:16




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 Re: Super M Pilot Bearing in reply to Darryl 2Ms, 07-21-2021 18:14:05  
Here is one recent post on this, back when I edited the post some how it wiped out my photo, of the Bower bearing M5205EL, which take the internal race MA5205. Which looks like the bearing posted by busboy.



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used red MN

07-21-2021 22:06:52




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 Re: Super M Pilot Bearing in reply to used red MN, 07-21-2021 22:04:16  
Here is another older post that covers this as well.



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fastfarmall

07-22-2021 08:04:30




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 Re: Super M Pilot Bearing in reply to used red MN, 07-21-2021 22:06:52  
I am doing an MD right now,and i got a old IHC parts book, and the former parts man wrote in there in ink pencil, for the 43 357 D,he said use 692150, i wander what brand ,or company that was ?



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