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Super H Plowing Input

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Lfdfireman

01-01-2021 11:32:09




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Hey folks, I wanted to get some input on this age old fun question......I have a 1953 Super H here in Northeast/East Central Kansas. Soils are generally good quality dark soil with little to no clay content. I have a chance to get a good deal on a Little Genius 3-14 plow and thought I might go ahead and get it for occasional use turning over some old pasture ground or maybe in some bean stubble. I know the regular Hs typically had to roll with 2 bottom plows while the Ms cruised with 3 bottoms. Have talked to some different folks who have pulled 3 bottom plows with their SH, most successfully in good quality soil. Thoughts on it?

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Cmore

01-02-2021 08:03:46




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 Re: Super H Plowing Input in reply to Lfdfireman, 01-01-2021 11:32:09  
Did nít Max Armstrongís dad pull 3-14ís with their Super H on the family farm in Indiana?
Max still has the tractor, all restored.



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Mike Fitz

01-02-2021 07:19:13




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 Re: Super H Plowing Input in reply to Lfdfireman, 01-01-2021 11:32:09  
If the tractor is decent running and the plow is in good shape AND you have the two of them set up to work together properly it should work reasonably well, getting the correct setup on the tractor and plow is important, find a copy of the plow manual, they generally have instructions on set up, Google Tractor Plow adjustment and operation,Bulletin P95, it is an old Iowa State college extension publication that has great instructions, get your tape measure, wrenches and have fun, a good running plow is a great thing, one that doesn't can be miserable.
Mike

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steve_in_mo

01-01-2021 17:55:09




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 Re: Super H Plowing Input in reply to Lfdfireman, 01-01-2021 11:32:09  
You can pull the 3-14 plow pretty handily in soybean stubble.
Pasture will make her work really hard, and you'd like a 2-14 better there.
Old alfalfa ground will reduce a strong M to pulling a 2-14.



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47fivewindow

01-01-2021 20:34:36




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 Re: Super H Plowing Input in reply to steve_in_mo, 01-01-2021 17:55:09  
Steve, you are so right. We rented a field that had been in pasture for at least 20 years. We had a slow time getting a plow through that one the first time.



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Olyj1947

01-01-2021 16:55:44




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 Re: Super H Plowing Input in reply to Lfdfireman, 01-01-2021 11:32:09  
You can make a 2 bottom out of the 3 bottom plow. My brother had a SH and dropped a bottom off it so he could pull it. Later (2 years)he got a SM and added the extra bottom back on.



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BarnyardEngineering

01-01-2021 15:50:07




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 Re: Super H Plowing Input in reply to Lfdfireman, 01-01-2021 11:32:09  
Got a guy here who is pulling 3 or possibly even 4 bottoms with a Super H, but it is a HOT Super H. She's built for speed and power and had about 5 sets of wheel weights on it last time I saw it. Purpose-built for showing off at plow days.



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NY 986

01-02-2021 08:06:40




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 Re: Super H Plowing Input in reply to BarnyardEngineering, 01-01-2021 15:50:07  
Had a guy that owned a 300 who pulled a 3 X 14 plow in 3rd gear at a plow day. This is when a stock 300 would pull 2 X14 and notice it at the same plow day. We figured that the hot 300 was putting out around 45 HP or more. It had the correct engine block number but I don't remember if the head was stock or not anymore.



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FastFarmall

01-01-2021 15:48:44




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 Re: Super H Plowing Input in reply to Lfdfireman, 01-01-2021 11:32:09  
we got a guy that pulls 3-14 with a super H, it got a dead load in 2nd gear, i gain on him all the time with the SMTA, in 2nd, with 3-16 !!!!We got Barnes Sevea Loam !!!



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Dave S.

01-01-2021 15:26:55




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 Re: Super H Plowing Input in reply to Lfdfireman, 01-01-2021 11:32:09  
I live in north east ks around Horton and Hiawatha. Have a H with a Farmall 350 engine, step head pistons and three weights on each rear wheel. Pull a little genius #8 2-14 plow 6 to 7 inches deep. In good bean stubble I can run in 4 gear, I have plowed some clay and some alfalfa ground that I was in 1st & 2nd gear.

If it was me I would look for a 2-14s or 2-16 plow, it is a lot more enjoyable to go a little faster and plow in 3 & 4th gear. Just my opinion.

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caterpillar guy

01-01-2021 14:41:13




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 Re: Super H Plowing Input in reply to Lfdfireman, 01-01-2021 11:32:09  
You may be able to pull it and might just make better time with just 2 instead of 3. Or get more tractor. There becomes a point where going slower with more becomes less.



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used red mn

01-01-2021 14:23:45




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 Re: Super H Plowing Input in reply to Lfdfireman, 01-01-2021 11:32:09  
If you buy a 3-14 to pull with a Super H I hope you are right about your soil. I donít know what your exact location is but I grew up on a farm 7 miles west of Marysville KS on the Marshall and Washington county lines. Our farm had a lot of what we called gumbo soil on the upland areas. There an M was what you needed for 3-14s.



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Brendon-KS

01-01-2021 14:18:43




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 Re: Super H Plowing Input in reply to Lfdfireman, 01-01-2021 11:32:09  
As others have said the soil is a huge variable. Here in our central Kansas gumbo a #39 2x14 tumble plow gives my Farmall 350 about all it wants when running 8 or 9 inches deep. Traction is as much a limiting factor as power so you'll want several weights on each side, maybe with an extra one on the land wheel. After I added an IH 2000 loader and 300 lbs of weight to each wheel I could pull my plow a lot better than I could before, simply because I had enough traction to put the power to the ground. (I had no ballast at all before but the tires are good.)

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53 super H

01-01-2021 13:27:43




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 Re: Super H Plowing Input in reply to Lfdfireman, 01-01-2021 11:32:09  
Soil makes all the difference in the world. I have a 53 super H that will pull 3/14 in 3rd gear in good bottom ground and in the hill country it can be a load for 2/14 especially in sod. Tractor has been upgraded with fire crater pistons.



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David G

01-01-2021 12:04:31




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 Re: Super H Plowing Input in reply to Lfdfireman, 01-01-2021 11:32:09  
I think a 3 bottom is a little aggressive for a super H.



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highwayman

01-01-2021 12:20:24




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 Re: Super H Plowing Input in reply to David G, 01-01-2021 12:04:31  
Itíll probably pull it. Wonít hurt to add a couple sets of rear weights. Doubt itíll run away with it. Be a 1st maybe 2nd gear operation.



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47fivewindow

01-01-2021 12:37:15




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 Re: Super H Plowing Input in reply to highwayman, 01-01-2021 12:20:24  
I grew up on a gas IH424 that pulled 3 14s without a problem with a 145 cubic inch engine. The SH has 164 cu ins so a little more guts. I understand a mounted plow with draft control pulls a little easier, but I would think you will be happy on good ground with good tires.



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lfdfireman

01-01-2021 12:22:56




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 Re: Super H Plowing Input in reply to highwayman, 01-01-2021 12:20:24  
That is what I was thinking, with good soils around here, it shouldn't have to struggle too much.



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Janicholson

01-01-2021 14:09:45




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 Re: Super H Plowing Input in reply to lfdfireman, 01-01-2021 12:22:56  
I own a Stage1SH and it worked yellow clay with 2-14s So I would go for it! Jim



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burnsg2003

01-01-2021 16:56:45




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 Re: Super H Plowing Input in reply to Janicholson, 01-01-2021 14:09:45  
I have a 53 super H and have pulled three 14 s and two 14s it is more pleasurable to pull the two. Threes really make the super pull hard and mine has enhanced pistons



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