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bc

07-01-2020 21:55:45




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Hello. Just pulled the clutch. It actually looks good and has probably been replaced in the past. Wanted to get your opinions on this. Could clean it and put back in, or replace the clutch plate and throw out bearing while having the pressure plate and flywheel refaced. The online parts store has an organic plate that has more surface area on it and I see the kit also includes 2 pilot bearings which I am not sure where they go. Thanks for your help.






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David G

07-03-2020 16:41:57




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 Re: 2606 clutch in reply to bc, 07-01-2020 21:55:45  
I really do not like the button clutches, they are hard on flywheels and too grabby when inching.



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rustred

07-03-2020 09:07:31




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 Re: 2606 clutch in reply to bc, 07-01-2020 21:55:45  
those button clutches are hard on flywheels and pressure plate wear as seen in the photos. even those buttons have a lot of wear on them. i would just use the standard disc type clutch, as they wont cause that kind of wear on the flywheel. that will take a lot of resurfacing plus the step and they might junk it also.



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bc

07-03-2020 07:49:12




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 Re: 2606 clutch in reply to bc, 07-01-2020 21:55:45  
Thanks. It has and will be used with the 3000 loader with Case CK backhoe attached. Mainly moving dirt and bales around the farm. It won't be used for daily commercial dirt work. I wish it had a hitch and PTO but I think I would be better off finding another IH tractor to run a mower.
Didn't get the flywheel to the machine shop yesterday cause the vet came out to biopsy the horse who has a growth around the body part I probably can't say here except it is a part only males use. He was sedated before a piece was snipped off. I called the machine shop and he said they don't reface pressure plates. Since I don't know the age I will get the kit with a new throw out bearing.
I know Jim is an expert on this stuff so is there any new experience and use data since the 60's as to the use of the HD plate or has the organic plate improved to where they are better for loader use? I think they used asbestos back in the day. Thanks, Britt

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Janicholson

07-03-2020 10:27:20




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 Re: 2606 clutch in reply to bc, 07-03-2020 07:49:12  
I believe the organic style is fine. You will be using it for "yard" work, so a smooth acting engagement is desirable. Often the puck type with ceramic/metallic driven disk can be jerky and sensitive. I also do not like the flywheel wear factor. Jim



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wore out

07-02-2020 23:44:38




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 Re: 2606 clutch in reply to bc, 07-01-2020 21:55:45  
[quote="bc"](quoted from post at 20:53:15 07/02/20)
Ceri-metallic tractor clutches were available by the late 60's, if not earlier.

They are often installed as a HD "upgrade" in loader tractors, or other tractors that "see" some other use requiring frequent clutching.

The ceri-metallic plates last darned near forever. The downside is that they wear the flywheel and pressure plate more than standard clutch discs.

Sometimes one will begin to slip because so much cast iron has been worn away the disc is no longer "pinched" as tight as it needs to be when the clutch is engaged.

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bc

07-02-2020 20:53:15




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 Re: 2606 clutch in reply to bc, 07-01-2020 21:55:45  
[quote="CVPost-Janicholson"](reply to post at 12:16:07 07/02/20) [/quote

Thanks but that begs the question, which is better. Guess I didn't know they made that ceramic or metallic or whatever it is. I am used to the old style with a full faced surface. I don't know that I trust just a 4 part surface but then new brake shoes are of a similar material. Don't know when they came out with that style but it tells me it is a replacement sometime prior to 2005. Thanks.

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Janicholson

07-02-2020 10:16:07




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 Re: 2606 clutch in reply to bc, 07-01-2020 21:55:45  
I would go with the new organic. Jim



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bc

07-02-2020 06:38:28




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 Re: 2606 clutch in reply to bc, 07-01-2020 21:55:45  
Agreed, but the clutch was easy to get at once it flopped over. Today I am going to try to knock the cylinders and pistons loose and take them to the machine shop. Will have to figure out a system to match up rods, caps, bearings, pistons, and cylinders so they go back together right.



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Roger Tomfohrde

07-02-2020 13:04:09




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 Re: 2606 clutch in reply to bc, 07-02-2020 06:38:28  
Should have numbers stamped on the camshaft side on all the parts, but that doesn't mean some else may have had their hands in there.



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caterpillar guy

07-02-2020 02:08:43




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 Re: 2606 clutch in reply to bc, 07-01-2020 21:55:45  
I would have the engine running before fooling with the clutch. Though at this point I would replace the whole clutch. The disc looks like you have a lip on the inside of that button you show there and a new pressure plate will come in the kit. There should be 2 bushings the same size for the cross pivot shaft and then either a bushing or ball bearing for the pilot bearing.



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used red mn

07-01-2020 22:30:10




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 Re: 2606 clutch in reply to bc, 07-01-2020 21:55:45  
Did you get the engine unstuck? If not in my opinion it is sort of odd methodology to check the clutch on a non running engine.



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