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notjustair

06-30-2020 05:59:56




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I just changed the oil in the 886 and found about two tablespoons of water in the oil pan. I changed it about 10 hours early because it was showing steam out the draft tube and I had to add antifreeze.

It is the first generation engine - the 360 with 3800 hours on the tractor. I know that engine is prone to cavitation. I am planning on doing an in-frame on it this winter.

Am I missing anything? Seems to me that I remember DeltaRed having oil in the water because of the oil cooler. I might just be imagining that. Whether itís liner seals or cavitation it has to come apart. Am I missing another possible cause? Itís not out the exhaust.

Has anyone added the antifreeze conditioner/filter to these engines from the 358? Would it help after the rebuild?

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DR. EVIL

07-02-2020 15:19:32




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 Re: Water in the oil in reply to notjustair, 06-30-2020 05:59:56  
Fleetgard sells a 16 oz. Bottle of DCA-4 I think it is, Diesel Coolant Additive #4. They even make/sell test strips to make sure you add enough additive. And there antifreeze/coolant called COMPLETE already has the proper amount of additive.
The 360 is a 300 series, similar to the 312 engine used in newer 686's, 666. The filter kit for a 400 series probably fits, or IH/CIH has a filter kit for the 312/360 engines. Testing at every oil change with a test strip is probably the best way to prevent cavitation. And adding some DCA-4 depending on what the reading is. I tested the coolant in my 7.3L PSD probably 100 times, every oil change, they are Real prone to cavitating, and SON has the truck now, 315,000 miles. The coolant can leak into the oil in the oil cooler, tubes full of oil running through a big tube of coolant, everything sealed with o-rings. The "tubes in the tube" assembly are available as repair parts.

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caterpillar guy

06-30-2020 06:43:04




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 Re: Water in the oil in reply to notjustair, 06-30-2020 05:59:56  
If it has for sure cavitated treatments are pretty much locking the barn after the horse has been stolen. If the water is left just over the core level and then stays there. Your water is probably just condensation. Is the water clear or color to it when drained out? Clear is just water being most likely condensation again.



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notjustair

06-30-2020 08:28:28




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 Re: Water in the oil in reply to caterpillar guy, 06-30-2020 06:43:04  
It was clear. I run Fleetguard antifreeze in it just because of the cavitation. I mowed hay with it yesterday and worked the snot out of it. I just cracked the drain plug and got only fresh oil. No milkiness to it at all. Iím hopeful but planning for an in-frame come winter. Itís not really handy to have it down - itís the little tractor for chores and square bales. Everything else is on a sprayer or articulated so thatís not going in a hay field!

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FastFarmall

06-30-2020 18:54:25




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 Re: Water in the oil in reply to notjustair, 06-30-2020 08:28:28  
How dd you work the snot out of it mowing hay, or did u mean chopping hay ???



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FastFarmall

06-30-2020 06:20:14




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 Re: Water in the oil in reply to notjustair, 06-30-2020 05:59:56  
Well it sure should help, thats what it is for,You can buy a liquid to add, or a filter and change that,also help to change antifreze every two years.



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504

06-30-2020 19:32:07




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 Re: Water in the oil in reply to FastFarmall, 06-30-2020 06:20:14  
If it was clear like you said it cannot be antifreeze,it has to be condensation. run it and check oil and antifreeze at the start up.



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