Farmall DED3

apcbud

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Hi,
I live in New Zealand and have just bought a Farmall DED3 that's in need of some attention. Does anyone know of anyone else in NZ who may have some spares etc.
Cheers
Andy
 
bud welcome to YT! I can?t help you with your request, but I will post a link to a photo and info on your tractor.
This will help others like me who have never heard of a Farmall DED3. Apparently a relatively rare tractor.
Poke to look
 
There should be some spare parts around as 251 (or 252) DED3 tractors came to NZ. The D-324 was more limited with only 51 coming into the country. All the DED3s that I have seen in NZ were already restored so do not what left over bits were around. I believe that most were sold to dairy farmers in the Waikato area which may help narrow down search area. I do not think very many came to the South Island.
 
DED-3 (3 cylinder) was built from 1953-1956, D-324 (and D-320 which replaced DED-3, the D-324 had slightly larger bore cylinders) was built from 1957-1962. IH (Neuss) offered the D-320, D-324, D-214 and D-217 to IH, New Zealand, but they only brought in the D-324, The smaller tractors would have competed with Farmall 140 and Farmall Cub. The larger D-430 would have competed with the B-250, B275 etc. The British built tractorss were cheaper from the UK as they had much lower import duties. At that time motor vehicles (cars) had import duties of 70% if from UK or Australia (Commonwealth countries) whereas cars from Europe or US attracted 130% duties. My D-214 which I imported from Germany has the same bore and stroke as DED-3 but only 2 cylinders. [D (Germany) 2 cylinder 14 HP] and the D-324 [D (Germany) 3 cylinder 24 HP]. The DED-3 was about 20 Hp and compared in size to the Ferguson TEA-20. A large number of the Farmall C and Super C tractors were the French built versions, I presume that they were cheaper than the US built tractors.
 
Wow..thats some impressive knowlegde. My seriel No is NT68046,
does that make mine a D-324?

Cheers
 
Hi
I do not have photographs of a DED-3 handy. However, I Have a photograph of the DLD-2 (the 2 cylinder member of the family and has the same style of radiator) and a photograph of my D-214 which shows the later 1956-1962 series tractors. The D-324 has a similar style except that the 3 and 4 cylinder tractors do not have the rear axle drop housing that are found on the 2 cylinder tractors. Also tractor exported from Germany did not have the flat-topped fender so common in Germany withe their farm-worker seats on the fenders. The term Farmall was dropped from the German built IH tractors in 1958
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Hi Andy,
Serial number NT68046 is a DED-3 (D=German, E=standard D=Diesel 3=3 cylinder) 99 cubic inch engine.
NT is Neuss Tractor, NT60001 was the first DED-3 February 1953 and the last NT68650 in 1956.
The D-324 had serial numbers NT225001 to NT495249

My D-214 (1961) NT306988 is 66 cubic inch its predecessor the DLD-2 ((D=German, L=Light D=Diesel 2=2 cylinder) had the same engine and was designed as a diesel equivalent of the Farmall Cub)
The DGD-4 (D=German, G=large D=Diesel 4=4 cylinder) 132 cubic inch, at 30 Hp was the equivalent of the B-250.
 
Hi Athol So when I'm searching for spares etc. am I just looking for DED-3. The reason I ask is that it doesn't seem to come up on the different specialist web sits
 
There are German IH groups but I would have to search old web data to find the ones I looked at 15 years ago. German Ebay (https://www.ebay.de/) can be useful as most of the parts I needed (seats etc) came via there, though some reading ability in German would be useful (the German reading I had to do for a doctoral degree in the 1960s came in useful) as it also was reading German maintenance manuals.
 
Just a point of interest, on the D-214, all bolts etc are UNC (US) and spacing for implement attachment points are at inch or fractions thereof (imperial) distances centre to centre. All bolts etc on injection pumps (Bosch) are metric, all bolts etc on hydraulic system (Bosch) are metric and all electrical fittings (Bosch) have metric sizes.

The D-214, D-212, D-217 and and the earlier DLD-2 tractors have two 1 cylinder injection pumps on the opposite side of the engine driven off an extension to the oil-pump drive. On the 3 and 4 cylinder tractors a standard injection pump on the left-hand-side of the engine is used.
 
Thanks again Athol. One of the main reasons I went for this tractor was the Bosch content of it. I worked for Bosch for for over thirty years both in Service Agents and at Robert Bosch UK as a Diesel Fuel Injection engineer.
Do you know if service items, filter etc. are readily avaible in New Zealand?
Cheers Andy
 
I haven't tried, Case-IH in NZ may have some as they sold the DED3 in NZ. However, that was a long time ago.
I think the oil filter is cleanable, the manual for the D-214 shows washing the filter in petrol and that is what I did for mine, and I suspect that they used the same oil filters on all the tractors. The fuel filter (fits inside the fuel tank over the outlet) and hydraulic oil filter I obtained from Germany. I will see if I can find the contact details, though is now about a decade ago that I purchased them.
The hydraulics unit on the DED-3 is however, quite different from the ones they used on the 2 cylinder tractors as the 2-cylinder tractor 3 point unit also has the lever and fork to operate the differential lock, it took me three days of playing to get the fork to go in the right place when I put the 3 point system on the top of the differential gears (using a shop crane as it was quite heavy), the manual seemed to imply that it was easy, it might have been if you the tools to hold the diff-lock lever in the engaged position as you lowered the 3 point system. On the DED-3 the hydraulic cylinder is external. I do have an electronic copy of the 3 and 4 cylinder tractor maintenance manual downloaded from the internet (If I remember correctly a French IH enthusiast web-site), however, it is not a great scan and the manual is in German. There may be English language version of the manuals as the tractors were sold in English speaking parts of the world e.g. NZ, but 60 odd years later may be hard to find.
 
(quoted from post at 00:35:40 04/10/20) Hi,
I live in New Zealand and have just bought a Farmall DED3 that's in need of some attention. Does anyone know of anyone else in NZ who may have some spares etc.
Cheers
Andy

Hi Andy
You have got yourself an interesting little tractor there. We had a farm in Southland at one time and had one of these little beauties from new. Kept it about 15 years until farm was sold. Only thing it needed doing to it really was injectors cleaned. We did about 10000 hours on it and still going perfectly. Had the mid mounted mower which we used mainly for topping.
It also pulled 8ft discs all day - just full throttle and left it there.
Cheers
George
 

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