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Re: H radiator removal.........those @#%#* bottom nuts!

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Haas

04-16-2001 19:16:08




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Don't know about the H, but on the M, you can get a socket with an extension on the radiator bottom bolts. Don't know about the frame rail question. However, suggest you get a 6 point socket if you have been using a 12 point. Sometimes the 6 point will hold where the 12 won't. Also, I would think you could use a hacksaw and saw the bolt off where the radiator rests on the bolster. It is a stud bolt on the M. May be hard to get it out. On my MD, one of the bolts was welded or soldered in.

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Ray M41

04-17-2001 06:50:33




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 Re: Re: H radiator removal.........those @#%#* bottom nuts! in reply to Haas, 04-16-2001 19:16:08  
I wouldn't saw the bolts off. Made that mistake. Mine didn't have nuts, just the studs. The studs were in bad shape and I cut them off. Then there was nothing to keep the bottom part of the radiator from shifting around. Had studs welded back on. You don't really need the nuts just the studs, and a piece of inner tube padding between the bolster and the bottom of the radiator.
I think the trainees designed the radiator while Raymond D. (forgot his name) was taking his coffee break.

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Haas

04-17-2001 12:20:49




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 Re: Re: Re: H radiator removal.........those @#%#* bottom nuts! in reply to Ray M41, 04-17-2001 06:50:33  
I was assuming that the studs could be replaced. They are just stud bolts threaded into the bottom of the radiator. Getting them to unscrew out of the radiator could be a problem though.



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Ray M41

04-18-2001 07:18:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: H radiator removal.........those @#%#* bottom nuts! in reply to Haas, 04-17-2001 12:20:49  
They are studs. But judging from the many posts on this subject it appears all have been frozen in or welded over. Mine was already worked on by many and the studs were welded in some time along the way. That bottom part is a weak piece of copper and susceptible to shearing around the stud socket.



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Doug D...they are studs!

04-17-2001 18:34:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: H radiator removal.........those @#%#* bottom nuts! in reply to Haas, 04-17-2001 12:20:49  
I got that radiator out by cutting the nuts off with a chisel. They are studs that came right out of the radiator with vise grips and muscle.

Looking back on the comments, There was no way I could get a socket on those nuts. There was barely room to get an open end wrench in there to get a hold of them. This is a 1940, maybe some of the later ones were designed with enough room for a socket after enough mechanics griped about it.

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The Red. CONGRATS!

04-18-2001 06:34:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: H radiator removal.........those @#%#* bottom nuts! in reply to Doug D...they are studs!, 04-17-2001 18:34:22  
Somewhere along the line them Farmall engineers got wise and had holes casted underneath the studs in the bolster. My 1945 and 46 Hs are like the 1940 which requires a box or open end wrench and a lot of cursing. The 1951 I rebuilt two years ago had the casting holes. It sure made life easier!



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Haas

04-18-2001 05:43:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: H radiator removal.........those @#%#* bottom nuts! in reply to Doug D...they are studs!, 04-17-2001 18:34:22  
Glad to hear you got it fixed! I'm going to look at my M again, but I recall using a socket to get the radiator bolts off. Maybe the H is different, or I just forgot. I do remember it was not easy and getting them back on is not easy either!



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