khouse6

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i have a 140 international. governor is un responsive.
removed the radiator , so i could get to the governor easily.
took the governor apart. it looks good.
any suggestions?
 
Last fall I had a larger Farmall 460 that was running like Deere {not on 6 cyl}. The Gov was unresponsive as well. Had not run much in 2 years that I owned it and seldom ran like I wanted. I went through all the preliminary trouble shooting. Nothing seemed to help. One thing I did do was adjust the linkage between carb and gov it was off by a 1.5 turns on the little turnbuckle maybe more?. No big change but did it anyway. What made it start to function was after I timed the motor with a timing light {before it had been done by ear} and re-checked the point gap. Then adjusted the RPM to low idle. Still need to go back and adjust my high idle as it runs way to high RPM. Then as if by magic the governor started working. Did a lot of preventive checks before all this. My timing wasn't off that far but it was off as was the linkage mentioned. In my case the spark was blue/white and all plugs fired but two were firing erratically and I missed that in the beginning. I still have to adjust my high idle as it revs way to high. Not sure if any of this pertains to your problem but it was a problem on my 460. This thing now runs absolutely wonderful. As punishment I gave the mechanic 4 months off without pay. Regards, John.
 
i found my shop manual. i have not set the adjustment (for the throttle rod) correctly. i did it wrong.
 
I had that happen plus a lot of other wear , ended up moving the rod out almost an inch to adjusted rod so pin would go into the lever at wide open .
Ball bearing were missing out of cage . Amazing the governor would still work , at least I thought it was .
Best to get a kit and fix up all the worn out parts, change out all the springs
 
i have been adjusting incorrectly, according to the shop manual. shop manual says to remove pin from clevis, push link towards carb as far as it will go and pull governor arm towards carb as far as it will go and adjust clevis accordingly.
 
I rebuilt the one on my SA a few years back. It would only idle. Thrust bearing was shot. Needle bearings in the rock shaft were shot and wore grooves on the shaft
 
this one will run , at all speeds, by hand throttle. it will not throttle up , when the tractor begins to pull. have to do it manually
 
(quoted from post at 06:18:42 01/17/20) i have a 140 international. governor is un responsive.
removed the radiator , so i could get to the governor easily.
took the governor apart. it looks good.
any suggestions?

This is an interesting situation.

The governor spring acts to open the throttle, and the action of the governor is to fight that force to prevent overspeeding.

The governor doesn't by itself open the throttle in response to load, it actually "backs off" and allows the governor spring to do that.

If the thrust bearing fails, or something beaks in the governor, etc., the typical outcome is for the engine to OVERSPEED out of control.

But that is not what you are observing.

Something in the governor or linkage is sticking, or the engine lacks the power to "pick up the load", could be timing or carburetor issues, or a cylinder or two misfiring.
 
the engine runs pretty well, for a 60 or so year old machine. i am able to feed the gas to the motor and act as governor, that way. it is like the motor has no governor at all. some say that the linkage, to the carb., is out of adjustment. and i am sure that it is, because i made the adjustment, contrary to what the shop manual describes. shop manual says to remove clevis, pull link towards carb and pull governor arm towards carb and adjust until pin can be installed without moving any more. thanks for your reply. you helped me with your reply.
 

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