IH 454 diesel, found hunk of metal in hydraulic oil change

sharpe50

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I recently inherrited my grandfather's international 454 diesel. I am new to the tractor scene so I don't have a wealth of knowledge. I have been working on getting the tractor back in working condition and I feel it is in pretty good shape to have been sitting for 15+ years not being touched. Anyways, as I was changing the hydraulic fluid I ran my magnet through the bucket of old fluid and pulled a chunk of something metal that had broke off inside, otherwise the fluid seemed to be pretty clean. The tractor seems to run and operate fine through high/low/reverse and all 4 speed gears. Parking brake holds well, and both brakes work fine independently. I have not put the tractor under any load, have not done anything but drive it around to make sure all hydraulics are working and not leaking. I would appreciate any insight if this should be a major concern or what this may be from. Hope I don't have to split the tractor to prevent any further damage!

Thank in advance!


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The closest drain plug to the front is the 4 Speed transmission(gears 1-4), second is the Range transmission(Rev/Lo/Hi) and rear under right axle is the diff.

Does the Diff Lock work? The part almost looks like a part of the Diff Lock fork.

See Trans/Diff parts at link below, Use the Back to Manual button to look at other parts.
454 Trans/Diff Parts
 

Hmm interesting, I say I'm almost positive it was the middle drain plug. But I was having to use a smaller bucket under the rear most plug and I had to dump it in the bigger bigger bucket I was using for the middle drain so I'm not 100% sure where it came from. My tractor does not have a differential lock. Was the diff lock an option? If it was standard on all tractors possibly could've broke, quit working and they took it off? I sent it the pics to the local case/ih dealer he seemed to think it was part of the shifter linkage. But it seems to shift and go into all gears with out any issue.
 

On mine, I can see the two slots on the right hand side about where my calf is, like there should be some pedals. But there is nothing but the slots cut in the sheet metal.
 
The two slots about calf level are for remote hydraulic control levers usual configuration is one lever next fender for rear remote hydraulic outlets, Diff lock is right close to trans case and and right above
foot rest. The foot pedal also folds back out of the way.

Could also be Rev/Hi/LO shift fork part see part link below.
Rev Hi Lo Shift forks
 
If it makes you feel better I found a gear
tooth when changing the hyd. Filter on my
1066 a couple years ago. It kind of bothers
me but can't notice any problem from it.
 
(quoted from post at 21:23:46 12/20/19) The two slots about calf level are for remote hydraulic control levers usual configuration is one lever next fender for rear remote hydraulic outlets, Diff lock is right close to trans case and and right above
foot rest. The foot pedal also folds back out of the way.

Could also be Rev/Hi/LO shift fork part see part link below.
Rev Hi Lo Shift forks

Oh ok! Yeah there deff is not a foot pedal on the right side. I also see now that I am looking for it, where the diff lock pedal should be located but is not there. Just being hypothetical, if it is the rev/hi/lo shift fork. Wouldnt that be causing issues not going in and out of different range selections?

Thank you all for the knowledge!
 
Re Diff lock, I believe it was a feature and not an option. My brother has 5 tractors of that series and all have Diff locks.
Re broken part, the good thing it is not a bearing cage and as the other poster said if everything is functioning well don't worry about it.
Re rev/hi/lo shifting, the part is only the tip of the shifter fork so there is enough remaining to do the shifting, the worst than can happen is that the trans will get stuck in either lo/hi and when you go
to rev it will stall the engine, so if that happens you will know one of the forks have jump out.
The usual failure is item #1 or #2 twisting off from item #4 in the link to caseih.com parts below. NEVER FORCE the Rev/Hi/Lo gear shift lever or you will twist off item #1 or #2.
The good thing this trans/diff is used in tractors up to 80 HP so 454 at 40 HP is not going to overload the trans/diff.

For manuals for IH 54/74 Series tractors see:
https://www.redpowermagazine.com/forums/topic/121219-d239-674-engine-manual-pdf/

PS, add some 2 cycle engine oil to the Diesel fuel everytime you add fuel as those older Bosch injection pumps do not receive enough lubricity from today's ULS Diesel fuel.

Good luck with your Grandfather's tractor.
JimB
Rev Hi Lo fail
 
(quoted from post at 08:12:35 12/21/19) Re Diff lock, I believe it was a feature and not an option. My brother has 5 tractors of that series and all have Diff locks.
Re broken part, the good thing it is not a bearing cage and as the other poster said if everything is functioning well don't worry about it.
Re rev/hi/lo shifting, the part is only the tip of the shifter fork so there is enough remaining to do the shifting, the worst than can happen is that the trans will get stuck in either lo/hi and when you go
to rev it will stall the engine, so if that happens you will know one of the forks have jump out.
The usual failure is item #1 or #2 twisting off from item #4 in the link to caseih.com parts below. NEVER FORCE the Rev/Hi/Lo gear shift lever or you will twist off item #1 or #2.
The good thing this trans/diff is used in tractors up to 80 HP so 454 at 40 HP is not going to overload the trans/diff.

For manuals for IH 54/74 Series tractors see:
https://www.redpowermagazine.com/forums/topic/121219-d239-674-engine-manual-pdf/

PS, add some 2 cycle engine oil to the Diesel fuel everytime you add fuel as those older Bosch injection pumps do not receive enough lubricity from today's ULS Diesel fuel.

Good luck with your Grandfather's tractor.
JimB
Rev Hi Lo fail

Thank you so much!
 
MJ in UK thinks part is off Diff lock fork as well, and he has worked on these tractors for years.

So it would appear at sometime in the life of your 454 the Diff lock fork broke and the solution was to remove the Diff lock.
 
(quoted from post at 05:47:32 12/21/19) I second that Jim, thats off the difflock engaging fork. MJ

Have another question for you MJ in the UK, when I raise the 3 point hitch the action is not smooth. When you try to slowly, smoothly raise the lift arms they don't respond in the same fashion. It is less noticeable without weight. But when you have a load on the lift arms it bounces the tractor around when attempting to lift smoothly. Lowering lift arms smoothly works just fine. Any idea what may be causing this?
Thank you!
 

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