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Another 1942 H Memorial Restoration Update

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Ken Christopherson

10-23-2019 11:09:53

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Hello all! Well, here is another update of the 1942 H memorial restoration project. This is by far the furthest I have ever been into a tractor before. Have all new gaskets and seals coming by the weekend, and upon inspection - it seems that my 4th/5th sliding gear and 3rd/4th drive gear have pretty significant wear. Looks as though the front (2) bearings for the input shaft need replacing as well. Hoping to find some good used parts, as new is pretty expensive. Pulling the top cover was not as daunting as I had thought it would be. The difficult part will be getting all the gears and shifter forks aligned when putting it back on.

I hope you guys are doing well in all your corners of the world. This project (as a reminder) is to help raise awareness for mental health and suicide. Unfortunately we lost another last Wednesday to suicide. It is happening far too often, and I am hoping that this project can help bring awareness to the cause.

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10-26-2019 20:23:56

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 Re: Another 1942 H Memorial Restoration Update in reply to Ken Christopherson, 10-23-2019 11:09:53  
It maybe different but I got all the bearings for the M transmission at our local farm supply store. What they didn't have they were able to order in. There was only a few items I had to get from the dealer. Seals around the bearing cage that you broke I had to get from the CIH dealer and a few other items.
I did pull the bull gears first but one of them still broke on me.I really think it was already broken> I was able to weld it back up and it's holding just fine.
I don't need it to be restoration quality. Just usable.

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10-26-2019 17:39:43

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 Re: Another 1942 H Memorial Restoration Update in reply to Ken Christopherson, 10-23-2019 11:09:53  
Kenny, those gears look like the ones in my M that wouldn't hold 5th gear. Found the pilot bearing out, and I mean out! As in so worn out it was plumb gone! Everyone told me it was the gear but I took a chance and just replaced the bearing. She's working great with those 'worn' looking gears. I actually think they are made with a little beveled edge on them so as to go in gear easier. And a lot of people mistake it for being worn.
I still don't have the F20 running. Still some fuel issues with it and just haven't had much time to work on it.

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Ken Christopherson

10-26-2019 18:36:36

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 Re: Another 1942 H Memorial Restoration Update in reply to txdutchman, 10-26-2019 17:39:43  
This H wasn't jumping out of 5th at all, and had zero issues going into and staying in any other gears. I have a very generous donor who is sending brand new 4th/5th sliding gears as well as the 3rd/4th driven gear. These seem to be the worst ones in the gear set. Oh, and my pilot bearing - bad. Rollers fell out of it as soon as I took it out. They aren't cheap either, and only available through Case-IH.
I made a little bit of a mistake tonight (but from what I hear a LOT of people have made the same mistake). I attempted to pull the pinion/bearing cage and heard a loud BANG. After some investigating, I discovered that it is necessary to FIRST remove the bull gear and axle/axle housing in order to pull the pinion cages. Well, live and learn. A restoration wouldn't be a learning experience without a little self destruction, right? Oh well. Live and learn, as they say.
So, moving forward... All I have left to disassemble is the lower gearset, and the left side axle/pinion set. It's official. This is by far the FARTHEST I have ever been into a tractor. I have been intimidated by it in previous workings, but I have found that it is MUCH easier than I thought. It's actually really fun seeing how all these big parts work together. Putting up a video right now of the next stage of disassembly.. But here are a few photos (and one of the carnage).

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Dave S.

10-24-2019 19:49:31

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 Re: Another 1942 H Memorial Restoration Update in reply to Ken Christopherson, 10-23-2019 11:09:53  
If you are going to disassemble the transmission pay close attention to the reverse idler gear on the bottom left side of the tranmission. Metal chips get thrown into the oil galleys and plug the hole that oils the bushings and shaft inside the gear. I have had to replace the bushings & shaft in several H's

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Ken Christopherson

10-26-2019 18:37:04

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 Re: Another 1942 H Memorial Restoration Update in reply to Dave S., 10-24-2019 19:49:31  
Good info, Dave! I will be sure to check it out! Thank you!

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