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Bama Binder

04-08-2001 19:50:26

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OK...this is a little off subject, but how many of us tractor guys are also military, retired military, veterans of foreign wars, etc??? I have seen a few posts indicating some of us are and I was just curious.

I'll start...I was active Army from 1988-1992 and have been in the Reserves ever since. I was a platoon leader during Operation Just Cause in 1989 (the invasion of Panama...You may not remember).

Let's hope things get better between the US and China. I predict that our relationship will deteriorate and we may find ourselves in direct conflict with them in the next 5-10 years....perhaps a bit like 1951-1952 all over.

God Bless the USA...BB

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Terry H

04-11-2001 18:36:58

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Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Bama Binder, 04-08-2001 19:50:26

Probably one of the few DRAFTED for Viet Nam that will answer this or can that lived through the time. Drafted prior to the lottery, and spent 13 months in Nam in 66 & 67. (stayed an extra month to get out of the army 3 months early) In the 100th eng co which was a float bridge co as well as other bridge repair. Spent most months running convoy to all parts of the place bringing supplies over land, as our trucks where large. Also spent 3 months TDY with an infantry platoon doing river patrol and setting up for night ambush in the delta, as we also had boats of which I was an operator. The only benefit I can say I gained from the experience was learning at a very young age how short life really is, and to enjoy every minute of every day your alive. As well as don't take life to seriously as you won't get out of it alive any way!!! If only coming home we could have been treated half as good as those coming home from China will be. Looking back, the harassment after coming home was almost as bad as being there. Amazing how the news media controls our lives isn't it. Thank god for the forgiveness of a good tractor.

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Gunner Butteris

04-11-2001 14:45:52

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Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Bama Binder, 04-08-2001 19:50:26

19 Mar 1975 to 01 Dec 1997 USMC, went from Pvt. to CWO4. Lost track of where and what all I did, but I can say, "Been there, Done that" proudly

Semper Fi

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Sam

04-10-2001 18:20:13

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Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Bama Binder, 04-08-2001 19:50:26

1972-1976 USMC air wing, primary mos 6022, j52 engine mechanic on a6 intruders. Spent 13 months on USS Midway 74-75. 6 months of that was on flight deck as final checker. Loved every minute. Operation frequent wind, (evactuation of Saigon).

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Farmall43

04-10-2001 17:16:22

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Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Bama Binder, 04-08-2001 19:50:26

USAF December1993-December1997 Stationed Altus AFB Altus OK. 97th Security Police Squadren, K-9 division Narcotics and Explosives.

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peterc

04-10-2001 16:01:34

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Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Bama Binder, 04-08-2001 19:50:26

retired from air force reserve last year after 33 yrs. regular air force61 t0 65 ,middle east desert storm 90 ,91 .Aircraft mechanic until forced to retire now work part time 4 days a week at a farm supply as tractor mechanic. love these old tractor as much as airplanes.

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gwl

04-10-2001 09:21:23

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Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Bama Binder, 04-08-2001 19:50:26

this is my second posting here.I enjoyall of your comments.I was with the 503rd.m.p.battalion at fort bragg,n.carolina 1961-1963. We soent 45 days on riot control in Oxford,Miss.in 1963. There were 45 thousand army troops there. The college kids rioted. We also spent a few days in Alabama on riot duty.

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Smith 41A

04-10-2001 08:49:05

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Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Bama Binder, 04-08-2001 19:50:26

Army retired after over 25 years. First duty station was Chu Li Viet Nam, 68-69. Served too many places to list. Have a 41 farmall A, 49 Cub, 48 8N and others.

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Firetruck

04-10-2001 05:14:15

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Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Bama Binder, 04-08-2001 19:50:26

Served AF Fire Protection Jun 86 - Jun 90 Currently work VA hospital fire protection. I don't think enough of us appriciate these guys. Myself included some days. Thanks to all who serve.

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gene b

04-09-2001 21:01:49

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Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Bama Binder, 04-08-2001 19:50:26

ARMY 58-60 stationed after schooling at NUCLEAR project AFSWAP in TEXAS was a storage place 1 of ten in the US at the time only one the ARMY ran also was the biggest we need to get rid of those things and learn how to get along easier said than done

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the tractor vet

04-09-2001 20:36:37

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Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Bama Binder, 04-08-2001 19:50:26

US ARMY July 1966-July 1968 spent almost a year training states side between Ft. Benning, Ft.Campbell Ft.Gordon then a tour in the garden spot of the far East Viet Nahm , was in a SOG group shot once hit with scrapnel three times was a point man on most outtings and one of three snippers on the team .Was in the thick of it during the TET Offenceive.I can talk about it now but for years i did not have all my ducks in a row , there are still a few that wander off.

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Bart

04-10-2001 00:10:31

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Re: Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to the tractor vet, 04-09-2001 20:36:37

Thanks to all the Veterans, we are able to collect tractors and live free. Welcome Home.Gives me a chill just to think about it. Thanks Again.

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The Dukester

04-09-2001 20:05:19

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Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Bama Binder, 04-08-2001 19:50:26

I was a B-47B-II crew chief in the Strategic Air Command-USAF at Pinecastle AFB 9-54 to 6-56 then at Homestead AFB 7-56 to 2-58. Interesting work for a young guy, good experience. Grew up with Farmalls, but-got two green and yellow things out there with a '49 M.

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Paul Shuler with a big thank you

04-09-2001 19:36:39

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This is my Dad Bill Shuler with his first tractor a 50 C and my son Blake. He served in WWll landing on Utah beach 31 days post D day.He was in Battery D 119th AAA gun Bn{Mbl} " Dog battery".
He saw a lot of fighting all across France includeing the Battle of the Bulge. I new he was in the war but had never spoke of it till the 50th ann. of WWll and I asked him some questions about where had been and what he had seen. He told me many stories and many more he wouldn't speak of. I am very proud of him and would like to take this opportunity to thank all of you that sacrificed that I might not ever have to do and see the kind of things that you went through. Your courage made this a safe place for me to raise my children. My had hat is off to you and I thank you all.
Paul Shuler

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kj(il)

04-09-2001 18:50:35

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Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Bama Binder, 04-08-2001 19:50:26

enlisted 2 dec 71- went from active to guard will have 30 this year presently 1sg of my unit.kj

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Marvin S

04-09-2001 18:38:19

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Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Bama Binder, 04-08-2001 19:50:26

USAF 1955-1975. 1 year tour in Viet Nam (Phan Rang AB)during my career. I was an aircraft maintenance person, B-36,B-52,C141,C-5. C123's in Nam. Final four years in AF spent instructing acft. Maintenance. Worked civil service till last september, C-17's and many others during that time.

Grew up on a farm. We used mules to farm a 100 acre farm. Then we got lucky with a Farmall "M". I loved it. Today I have a 42H. I want to get started on it soon. Time and facilities are the current hold up.

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Dick

04-09-2001 18:07:15

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Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Bama Binder, 04-08-2001 19:50:26

Like they said in 1920. How ya gonna keep em down on the farm after they have seen Parie

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Pete

04-09-2001 15:57:57

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Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Bama Binder, 04-08-2001 19:50:26

Bama, US Army, 95B...Military Police 1982-1984 active duty at Yuma Proving Ground in beautiful South West Arizona, 4 years reserve duty in NY.
A big thank you to all who gave much more than I did! As scary as it seems, China needs a little spanking! Pete

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Cornfused

04-09-2001 15:34:07

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Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Bama Binder, 04-08-2001 19:50:26

I never served in the military but have one son in the Army and one in the Navy. I want to express a big thank you to all who have served to protect our freedom!

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Dave T

04-09-2001 12:04:20

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Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Bama Binder, 04-08-2001 19:50:26

Air Force for 4 years, '70-'74. One year at Phan Rang AB, Viet Nam, and 6 months TDY on Guam during the so-called 11 day war, when we were bombing the crap out of North Viet Nam.....

I didn't do so bad on my first restoration. It was an H also, 1940. I bought an H parts tractor, took alot of stuff off it, and sold alot of parts locally. I ended up costing $2400, but it only has implement paint, not Urathane...

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Bart

04-09-2001 11:44:20

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Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Bama Binder, 04-08-2001 19:50:26

101st Airborne. Went to Vietnam as Sgt. E5 Fire team leader. 7 days in country I was a Staff sgt. with a CIB and a purple heart. Woke up after a firefight later on at an evacuation hosp. One year in a Naval Hospital. Any combat vets out there.If there.s anyone luckier than I am, I've never met him.

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JohnL

04-10-2001 11:55:12

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Re: Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Bart, 04-09-2001 11:44:20

I was also an Instant Sgt in the 101st airborne, 3rd 187th. The worst year of my life. But now I farm with 2 m's, a 300 and a 450.

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Bob/Maine

04-09-2001 14:47:19

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Re: Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Bart, 04-09-2001 11:44:20

Bama, Yes my brother Paul was in the 101st Airborn and he is very lucky. The enemy crawling all over their bunkers. When it was all over most were dead. He went to help a buddy and put his hand into the back of his head. Bob

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Bama Red

04-09-2001 10:52:54

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Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Bama Binder, 04-08-2001 19:50:26

Okay, BB - U.S. Army, 1965-1969, then got the idea that maybe I should switch to the Navy and see the world! U.S. Navy 1969-1973, stationed aboard the USS Guam (LPH-9), a helicopter carrier with a Marine Battalion Landing Team (2000 men strong and their supporting air wing)on board. We were the first ship in the world to launch and recover the Harrier Jump Jet and I was fortunate to be on board when that happened. Supported the Lebanese government during their civil war with the PLO in 1970 - served as the primary recovery ship for the Army MASH units in Lebanon at the time. For thanks, we got strafed by the Israeli Air Force - nothing like the Liberty incident, but scary nonetheless. Thanks for the post Bama Binder.

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John in AZ

04-09-2001 08:49:50

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Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Bama Binder, 04-08-2001 19:50:26

I'm a Viet Nam era Vet, US Navy 1972-1975 was Stationed abord the USS Prairie AD-15 for most of that time '73-'75. I was Also in the Calif. Oregon and Arizona National Guard for about 10 years after that. I'm now starting my first Tractor restoration a '48 Farmall H. This project has blown way out of proportion since it was just susposed to be a good running tractor whan I bought it. Ha Ha, was I fooled, seriously it does run. But I'll never be happy till it is perfect I guess.

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The Red

04-09-2001 09:16:32

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Re: Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to John in AZ, 04-09-2001 08:49:50

Join the club John. When it was said and done, I blew $3,500 on that 1951 H project two years ago. And to keep up my reputation for losing money on tractors, combines, you name it, I sold it last year for $3,000. :(

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John in AZ

04-09-2001 09:28:32

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Re: Re: Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to The Red, 04-09-2001 09:16:32

Red, At least all the problems so far have been rather inexpensive fixes. But the "slight smokeing on start up" isn't going to be!! is is a hole lot more than a slight smoking and it never really goes away. Oh well!!!

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The Red

04-09-2001 09:32:31

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to John in AZ, 04-09-2001 09:28:32

That is kinda like the ol boy that tells ya it ran when he last parked it!!

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Farmer-Gene

04-09-2001 08:04:24

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USAFE '65-'69 SSGT crewchief/mechanic on C-130A models

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Roger A. NY

04-09-2001 06:01:17

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Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Bama Binder, 04-08-2001 19:50:26

BB,

I was in the Army from Aug "59 to Jul '62 as a fuel and electrical repairman. Stationed at Aberdeen Proving Ground, Fort Meade and then Korea for 16 months. Went back into the Army in '68 and went to flight school; flew Cobras in Vietnam and Cobras, Hueys and OH-58s in Germany, returned to the States and went to IFE, and IP school. Then stationed at Fort Bragg and Fort Drum flying all the above plus T-41's and T-42's. Went Civil Service in '79 and flew Hueys, a U-8, a YU-21 and a pair of R&D Cobras out of Picatinny Arsenal for the Army for about 2 years.

Have a small beef farm in central NY (about 100 acres) and work for the local municipality. Collect a lot of different brand tractors with Case, MM and IH being the most numerous.

Interesting to see how many of us are Vets. Hope China affair cools off. Best of luck fellows!

Roger

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Haas

04-09-2001 05:34:24

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Army Corps of Engineers, 1963-64. Lt. at Ft Wood, Mo with a 4 month TDY at Camp McCoy, Wisc in summer of '64, Was a CO, at Ft. Wood in the Engineers Training regiment and also served at the Floating Bridge Training site on the river there and the demolition range. With the NCOs help, set off a lot of TNT and C4 at the demo range. Got out just in time to miss Vietnam (Whew).

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Dick Davis

04-09-2001 05:09:18

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Navy 64 - 91. Flew (A-1 Skyraiders, A-4 Skyhawks, A-6 Intruders, and C-1 CODS from USS America, Coral Sea, Saratoga and other carriers that are also history. Live on an acreage and my wife lets me play with a few Farmalls and NH hay equipment. I guess I dreamed of farming all the time I was "Haze Grey and Underway" Dick Davis

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BTD

04-09-2001 16:33:18

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Re: Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Dick Davis, 04-09-2001 05:09:18

Dick, any chance you met my father on the America? He was a Sgt. in the Marines stationed on the America from 1964 to 1970, last name of Dalman. He said you naval aviators were awful noisy :). I sometimes regret not going into the military, besides my dad, my grandpa earned a Purple Heart with the Marines on Iwo Jima, his dad, my great-grandfather, was in Europe in the Army during WWI. My thanks to all the Vets out there, your country owes you a debt of gratitude! -BTD

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Dick Davis

04-10-2001 04:13:53

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Re: Re: Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to BTD, 04-09-2001 16:33:18

Sorry I didn't get to the USS America until 1978. But if a "Fleet Marine" was assigned to a Carrier's Security force he definitely had "his stuff in one sock" as we said in those days. The Gun Boss on CVA's was the department head under which the Marine Detachment's fell administratively. We also owned the magazines that held the 'stuff' the Marines were guarding so we got to know most of the grunts pretty well, good group of grunts for sure. Bet your dad was too. D-2

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F14

04-09-2001 08:32:16

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Re: Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Dick Davis, 04-09-2001 05:09:18

Dick, when were you on the America? I came aboard via Log Helo and left via COD whilst riding a battle group from Charleston to the Med in '84 or '85. I was out of MOTU Ten in Charleston at the time.

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Dick Davis

04-10-2001 04:31:36

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F-14 (I assume that refers to Farmall model 14 not Grumman model 14!) I was the Air Boss when you passed through (Air Boss tells the planes when to come and when to go). I probably yelled at you over the 5MC to get your helmet on! The flight deck is the most intentionly violent 4 acres in the world and no place for the untrained. The potential for death and destruction, to our own, never ceased to amaze me. So you a mine man, F-14? D-2

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The Red

04-10-2001 04:56:42

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Dick Davis, 04-10-2001 04:31:36

Dick how many military hours did you rack up? Looks like you had an interesting career!

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Dick Davis

04-11-2001 03:25:59

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4000 hours pilot (not a huge number compaired to many motored guys - but most of the carrier flights were 1.8 hours max) I have over 600 carrier arrested landings and I deny ever using 243.0! We called that "air Force Common" Rachet

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The Red. ROFLMAO!!!!

04-11-2001 04:47:07

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That's good flying time. 1.3 was the normal T-38 mission with the yanking and banking and traffic pattern crunch and gos. Cross country wise I had a couple of 2.0 plus. A couple of instructor clowns in our squadron logged a 2.6 and landed on fumes. They got grounded for a long time! I racked up 1,700 hours in 6 years which was about average.

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The Red

04-09-2001 05:18:47

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Oh so your the one that was always on 243.0 Guard Channel. :)

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Bill B

04-09-2001 04:57:30

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Sgt USAF. Was in from 65-69. Electrical power production, Oregon, Germany, Libya. Was in charge of the night repair crew at the power plant in Libya when Gadiffi started the revolution which threw us out. I really wanted to fill the engine cylinders with concrete, but we had to leave peacefully.
The China thing worries me. We knew that they consider that area their space, even though it is farther out than the line we draw around us, but we went in anyway. I prefer diplomatic solutions. War is not good for anybody except the people who make war tools.
I collect and fix old tractors and cars and motorcycles. You are invited to visit my web site.

Bill's Place in the Country

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Bob/Maine

04-09-2001 04:57:29

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U.S. Navy 1961-1964 Kittey Cruiser QM-3 Gator Navy USS Walworth County LST-1164 Good duty, didn't hurt me a bit, learned a lot. A Christian.
Bob

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The Red

04-09-2001 04:54:41

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I was first a student then a T-38 instructor pilot at Vance AFB, June 1974-August 1980. I taught Norwegians, Danes, Iranians (that was a treat to say the least) good ol ROTC fellars, Weekend warriors, one female (she flew as good as most of the guys) and Zoomies (AF academy graduates).

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F14

04-09-2001 04:39:29

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Navy, 1969-1990, retired as an E8.

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davem

04-09-2001 04:04:11

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Iwas in the Army 1966-1968 and was in Viet Nam for a year and operated a D7E bulldozer I recieved a Purple Heart for injuries occured will operating it. Old tractors are my hobbie I have loved them since I was a little boy. Iam a pastor with the Church of the Nazarene. God bless you guys

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Poor Farm Jim

04-08-2001 22:04:38

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United States Army, Feb.'70 - Feb.'72, 18 months in Viet Nam. Made E-5 (SP/5) in 18 months, rank was easy in war time. I tease a couple retired active duty and reservist buddies that I retired in just 2 years.

Jim

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Tim - Maine

04-08-2001 21:04:22

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US Navy 1986 - 1992 Gas Turbine Technician Electrical First Class, USS Samuel B. Roberts (FFG-58) and USS Clifton Sprague (FFG-16). VFW Life member, Located in the Red Sea during Operation Desert Shield / Storm as part of maritime intercept forces, stopping merchant ships and inspecting cargo headed towards Iraq. Used the knowledge I gained in the Navy to get employment at Gas Turbine power plants. I work a 12 hour shift and have half the days of a month off, leaves alot of time to play with tractors and buy more, though the wife really doesn't like that much. I have a Super C 1953 and an Oliver OC-3 1951.

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Farmer Bob

04-08-2001 20:36:00

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Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Bama Binder, 04-08-2001 19:50:26

BB, Thanks for the post. For me it was the Navy for a 30 year career ('66-'96). The last eight years was as a Command Master Chief. Was CM/C of a VP Squadron that was first into Desert Shield with Maritime Patrol assets (P3-C's). Very similar to the one that sits on Chinese soil right now.//FB

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RAW in IA

04-09-2001 19:58:33

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Re: Re: Vets and Tractors in reply to Farmer Bob, 04-08-2001 20:36:00

US Army 67-69. Vietnam 68-69 Big red 1 Infantry. I was lucky, not a scratch. Onl;y injury in service wasa chipped tooth during basic training at Ft. Bliss.

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