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Still having problem with 300 IH

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Grumpy ole nobody

06-04-2019 17:28:29

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Sorry to bother you folks again .Still having trouble getting the ole gal to ladle down to 4-500 rpm.Here's what I had done so far.(1)- took tube loose to carb and this time I had my neighbor put on my lighted magnifier glasses and he said the tang is united with the slot.(2) Took the govenor breather top off and made sure the pin that is in the arm moved freely.(3) Took side cover off govenor.Made sure that the lower screw wasn't loose...it had Aprox 3/8 of its threads showing.The upper screw had Aprox the same 3/8 threads exposed.Started tractor while neighbor wwatched govenor while I tried to move throttle lever up and down thru it's arc .I can only move lever 3/4 in movement.And as neighbor watched govenor,he said the govenor weights were swung out and as I tried lowering throttle to idle nnothing changed.(4) We took tube off carb and neighbor used a screw driver to hold the slot on throttle shaft closed while I started engine....it actually was idling at 600 rpm smoothly.So while he held pressure on throttle I adjusted throttle stop screw to idle at 450rpm.Everything good so far.He hooked up the gov shaft tang into slot readjusted frt tube so shaft not binding and I started engine up.Neighbor said as soon as it fired up the gov weights flew outward and were back to square one with engine not wanting to idle lower then 1400 rpm.So anyone have any ideas or a good working govenor that I can just switch the old one out for? Are governors available yet for this old gal.She's a 1959. model.Again any ideas or pointing me in direction to get this up and running would be appreciated...thanks

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Bob in wc Ia.

06-06-2019 04:10:32

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 Re: Still having problem with 300 IH in reply to Grumpy ole nobody, 06-04-2019 17:28:29  
Joe, the heim joints and threaded rod would be used to replace the original clevis type vertical connecting rod between the rocker assembly and the throttle shaft lever. Nothing to do with the spring. I'm surprised, no instructions with a kit.

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Ellis Kinney

06-05-2019 09:26:59

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 Re: Still having problem with 300 IH in reply to Grumpy ole nobody, 06-04-2019 17:28:29  
If I were you I would give Bob a call as he has graciously included his phone #. He has rebuilt governors and carburetors for me until he is probably tired of hearing from me. First class work, better than new, very professional. Ellis

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Bob in wc Ia.

06-04-2019 19:03:23

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 Re: Still having problem with 300 IH in reply to Grumpy ole nobody, 06-04-2019 17:28:29  
Grumpy, if you don't find a good used governor locally, give me a call, seven one 2 7 nine two three 0 six five. Bob

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06-05-2019 20:24:48

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 Re: Still having problem with 300 IH in reply to Bob in wc Ia., 06-04-2019 19:03:23  
Bob; quick question. Some time ago i bought one of those "Denneys" pulling governor kits. Included was a piece of small all-thread with heim joints on each end, no instructions, so i have no idea what it was for? could this be to replace the governor spring? if it did, how would it effect the tractor...Thanks; Joe

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Bob in wc Ia.

06-04-2019 18:16:40

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 Re: Still having problem with 300 IH in reply to Grumpy ole nobody, 06-04-2019 17:28:29  
Grumpy, a couple things to try: First take off the side cover again and back out the top adjusting screw on the spring arm until its flush with arm and not acting as the stop. See if that gives you any more movement of the hand lever. Start it up and see if it idles any slower. If still the same fast idle, the next thing I would do is stop the engine, remove breather cover again, pull hand lever to wide open, remove cotter pin and take out the 1/4" pin that goes through the clevis and throttle shaft lever. With the pin out, take a hold of the brass throttle shaft lever and turn it up and down. It should only move just a couple degrees less than 90 degrees and turn very freely. Now hold the the lever to the top of its arc of movement and see if the brass clevis and brass lever holes line up. If not , loosen the jam nut and turn the clevis up or down until the pin just goes in freely. I'm guessing you'll have to turn it down. Hope some of this helps. Bob

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pete 23

06-04-2019 20:36:18

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 Re: Still having problem with 300 IH in reply to Bob in wc Ia., 06-04-2019 18:16:40  
Governor weights flying out means governor is trying to slow it down so I would say the rod previous poster said to adjust is most likely your problem. Governor and carb have to be in sync. One other thing. There is supposed to be a washer between governor weights and thrust bearing. It sometime gets lost if some one not familiar with governor has had it apart and if washer is missing , weights cannot move thrust bearing far enough to get to idle. And of course, at low idle the upper screw in governor should be up against the governor housing with throttle fully to low idle.

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