Super HTA?

I have a 54 Super H that has the live hydraulic system but was told there were a few built with a TA like the MTA. Is that true? Anyone have a picture? Did they also have live PTO?

IH made a couple of prototypes, but none were sold.
The ones circulating now were made by people who had
the rear two-thirds of a 300 or 350 and the front
of an H/Super H and wanted something unique.

The ones I've seen around here are either 300 or 350 with H tinwork and needed parts. There was a SHTA Hi-crop Diesel at one of the tractor drives last year, very well done too.

The best ones are made from 300's with Z-code castings.

But yeah, no factory Super HTAs in the sense of a miniature Super MTA. The prototypes were nothing like the final product in the design or operation of the TA, from what I hear.

not to get too far off subject but I went to a farmshow yesterday and saw a white Farmall H demonstrator.

Fake. IH never painted an H(or M) white from the factory.Only Cubs and Cs (and maybe As?) were white demonstrators in 1950. 'Your' white H was painted by a dealer independent from IH,or by some 'wanna be'.

(quoted from post at 19:27:04 03/09/19) Fake. IH never painted an H(or M) white from the factory.Only Cubs and Cs (and maybe As?) were white demonstrators in 1950. 'Your' white H was painted by a dealer independent from IH,or by some 'wanna be'.

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know that but it's his tractor to call it whatever he wants.

Dieseltech,,,wondering if you remember if those SHTA Hi-crops had the gd 193 engines?

Yes it did, just like the Farmall 350D dad had when I was about ten, a long time ago..

(quoted from post at 22:17:59 03/09/19) not to get too far off subject but I went to a farmshow yesterday and saw a white Farmall H demonstrator.

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Was that the show in Cape ? We usually go to that one on Saturday but got rained out this year.

Thanks

Rodney

Guy Fay did an article in Red Power magazine on the development of the TA, had several pictures of the prototype H's with TA. The clutch housing or torque tube on the prototypes were mostly round, much visibly different than the stock H had. There was no over-running or one-way clutch in the prototype TA's. The TWO prototypes were used extensively for testing, proved the concept, then the tractors were disassembled, parts inspected, and scrapped.

The tractors you see at shows, or plow days, or tractor drives built from the back of a 300/350 and front of a stage 2 Super H is just a total waste of two tractors. My opinion is the added HP and hydraulic oil capacity of a 300/350 beats ANY supposed increase in value by being a fake "rare factory prototype"

A 300/350 is a nicer tractor, most had power steering, fast hitch, live PTO, three hyd circuits, plus more hp compared to a Super H. I REALLY like my stage 2 Super H, would not trade it for anything, have had it 51 years in a few weeks, but a real nice 350 gas or maybe a 544 gear drive diesel, both with NFE would be nice. My loader would go right on, and I could fab up the hyd dump bucket the loader needs so badly.

There was a Super HTA High Crop Diesel Demo at the Mackinac Bridge Crossing in 2018. Now that's a combination of several Fantasies rolled into one! Not sure if it's the same one mentioned below. Super HTA fakes are common - you see them everywhere.

I agree on the 300/350. The H was nice in its day, but that day was a long time ago.
Also agree on the 544; if we're dreaming, we should dream big.

Photographs of experimental torque amplifier on Farmall H, 1952.
SadFarmall

Wow! Thanks for this!