International 300 Steering problem

newhaven

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Picked up a International 300 w/ loader that has been sitting for two years, got it started sounds great loader works great. so I decide to drive it home about 2 miles.. half mile into the trip lost the steering .. any suggestions where to start. Thanks
 
300/350 had either power steering, or manual. If what you mean by "lost" is that the wheels are not turning when
the steering wheel turns, and it is manual steering, the pin on the steering follower may have broken off. If power
steering that part is less stressed, and doesn't often cause issues. If power, or manual steering and the wheels are
pointing in different directions, a tooth has broken off of the gears that turn the shafts sticking out of the box.
if power, and the power went away, it could be an assortment of things including hydraulic priority valve, blown
cylinder packing in the box, a stuck valve in the steering wheel torque sensor, or a stuck pilot valve in the safety
regulator (rear valve closest to the seat between the hitch valve and regulator. One tst to see if it is a priority
valve, or pilot valve is to dead head the hitch up to see if system pressure is restored as the pressure is forced
to rise. Jim
 
(quoted from post at 12:01:43 01/07/19) 300/350 had either power steering, or manual. If what you mean by "lost" is that the wheels are not turning when
the steering wheel turns, and it is manual steering, the pin on the steering follower may have broken off. If power
steering that part is less stressed, and doesn't often cause issues. If power, or manual steering and the wheels are
pointing in different directions, a tooth has broken off of the gears that turn the shafts sticking out of the box.
if power, and the power went away, it could be an assortment of things including hydraulic priority valve, blown
cylinder packing in the box, a stuck valve in the steering wheel torque sensor, or a stuck pilot valve in the safety
regulator (rear valve closest to the seat between the hitch valve and regulator. One tst to see if it is a priority
valve, or pilot valve is to dead head the hitch up to see if system pressure is restored as the pressure is forced
to rise. Jim
he steering wheel stopped turning ….left or right.. I greased all the certs I could find before stating home
 
Steering wheel stopped turning??? As in you cannot turn the steering wheel or are you saying the front wheels do not move when you turn the steering wheel. What you said makes no sense because if yo ucannot turn the steering wheel at all then you have agood chance of a locked up steering box
 
can not turn the steering wheel.... turned left out of drive way and did not take long to notice steering was very stiff.. and the steering wheel stopped turning
 
Does it have power steering?? Does the loader have power down so you can lift the front tires off the ground if so lift them off the ground and hen see if you can turn the wheel
 
I think it does have power steering I can see hydraulic lines coming out of steering column. I thought about using the bucket it dose have power down.
 
The hyd motor could have locked up or one of the control valves could be in a position as to be pulling fluid so then the power steering does not get fluid as it should. Check the valves and make sure there in the neutral position and then if they are lift the front off the ground and see if you can then turn
 
Your hydraulic system is powered by an engine driven pump between the front cover and the distributor. If the
steering wheel is stuck, you will need to get into the box to fix it. Jackson Power Steering company makes a kit.
There are really no new parts, just used ones. Jim
 
If you can steer it with one hand with stuff in the bucket then you have power steering. Those tractors steer hard without any load or bucket if no power steering. If your's is damaged, welcome to the world of
having a loader on an IH utility tractor. I had to do some repairs on my 300U when I got it because previous owner had a loader on it. I don't have power steering so I have no idea how the guy steered it with
a load in it.
 
(quoted from post at 15:02:07 01/07/19) Your hydraulic system is powered by an engine driven pump between the front cover and the distributor. If the
steering wheel is stuck, you will need to get into the box to fix it. Jackson Power Steering company makes a kit.
There are really no new parts, just used ones. Jim


any idea of cost of the kit
 
There s a bearing in the very front of the steering shaft that can seize up. Take the grille off and take plug out of steering post. I have replaced the$700 torque motor only to find it was a $12 bearing.
 
(quoted from post at 17:34:59 01/07/19) Utility tractor, not Farmall, Jim
when I got home last night I check hydraulic fluid under the seat. No fluid on the stick... could it be that simple ??
 
(quoted from post at 17:34:59 01/07/19) Utility tractor, not Farmall, Jim
when I got home last night I check hydraulic fluid under the seat. No fluid on the stick... could it be that simple ??
 
Yes it could be that simple and or the lack of fluid has in turn caused a bearing to lock up or some such thing
 
A cheap fill up with Hytran might work. Mine has had the pressure fail going to the system and it has never locked
up the wheel. It steers but is way difficult. Jim
 
(quoted from post at 11:49:39 01/08/19) A cheap fill up with Hytran might work. Mine has had the pressure fail going to the system and it has never locked
up the wheel. It steers but is way difficult. Jim
will fill it up tonite… Thanks for the advice
 
(quoted from post at 11:49:39 01/08/19) A cheap fill up with Hytran might work. Mine has had the pressure fail going to the system and it has never locked
up the wheel. It steers but is way difficult. Jim
can you tell me if there is filter for the hydraulic system and where it is located ..
 
The filter (actually a screen) is under the cover, under the seat. The reservoir top must come off to get to it. They are a T shaped tube of 80 mesh screen wire
with screen caps at each end. There is a pipe fitting on the side (forming the Vertical part of the T. They get plugged up and collapse. They also are very
expensive. I can solder well, so I make my own. The test is the action of the Fast hitch. If it moves up and down with little or no change in engine load
(empty), and moves at a speed that takes 4 to 5 seconds at 3/4 RPM, the screen is OK.
The Jackson Power Steering company produces the Kit. I have an Idea that they are pricy, but stone reliable. I am not associated with them, they have a web site
and phone#. Jim
 

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