Original Book Times for Dealer Repair Work

RTR

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Just curious...... Is there any information out there that was published by IH for use by the dealers shops? Specifically regarding how long (hours/minutes) a particular repair would take. It would be interesting to see what amount of time IH determined a certain repair should take.

For Example:
Radiator Replacement - Bill 3 hours labor
Troubleshoot Charging System - Bill 2 hours labor
Engine Swap - Bill 16 hours labor
Engine Rebuild - Bill 26 hours labor
Tune-up - Bill 1.5 hours labor
 
I've got quite a few I&T Flat Rate Manuals.

Wonder if they used IH "book time", or determined the times on their own?
 
Yes there is a Flat rate book on repairs , And that BOOK and time given is great for when they were NEW , all that goes out the window on USED equipment FAST . Many years back i got in a 1066 to install a New T/A and clutch and get the lights working Ok so at the time on a non cab tractor it would take me about and i say about 23-26 hours . A little story on this 1066 here . That tractor came from down south of me about 30 miles and it was hit by a loaded Coal Bucket and broke into about four chunks . it was moved back to the farm and set out side and was being peace mealed back together setting outside with no cover and they got it setting on all four wheels and it sat , At onetime i tried to buy it and they were going to get it going and did not want to sell . So fast forward here about ten years , a guy and his kid stopped by the shop one day and asked if i had any 1066's for sale , i said not at this time and told them what i did have scattered around at different sale lots . I told them that i was going to be at a sale on Wednesday and i would find them one that was go to the field and have it home by Friday . when they asked how much i gave them a fair price and got OH that is way tomuch , humm i just priced you a 1066 go to the field tractor for no less then 1500 cheaper then anybody else around here and it was to much ok fine and they left. Only to come back and want me to do a clutch and T/A and fix the light . Ok fine money is money . When i went to pick up this tractor they bought for three grand less then what i wanted i about dropped my jaw as it was that 1066 hit by the coal bucket . But hey who am i to judge i'll just fix it . When i got it into the shop as we had to PUSH it on the trailer because it would NOT start and we started tallie up what all this tractor needed and i had them there and started figuring i get well just fix it . Ya know that FLAT RATE is going out the window when the vary first bolt twists off and each bolt there after TWISTS off , yes every bolt on that tractor twisted OFF and had to be drilled out and thread chased and all new bolts installed Then i get into the speed trans to remove the T/A and every gear in the speed trans is SCRAP along with the top and bottom shafts , the flywheel is total toast including the ring gear starter is junk , dash support is broken and healed together with four 1/4 x1 flat straps and 1/4 inch bolts . The more i got into this thing the more i found and they just kept on sayen FIX it The only item that i did not have to dig deep into was the engine just some seals a rebuilt pump and injectors and turbo and starter. From the radiator cap back less engine was rebuilt repaired replaced rewired repainted retired . And at the time when they handed me the check for the amount they could have bypassed the 66-86 and gone to a 88 series tractor with less then a 1000 hours , i will not say how big that bill was as i had a hard time writing that many numbers on the bottom line.
 
Usually times are from factory times . Back when i was a Ford Tech / Mechanic i was involved in a flat rate study . this one time study being done was on gear replacement on the 9 inch rear end . at the time i was doing a bunch of gear changes for guys wanting to drag race along with doing other mods to there new Fords . The dealership i worked at was involved in the Ford Drag club and i was the one that was the advisor on performance and the one that did the work on our two drag cars . back then flat rate on customer pay was now get this 9.50 and hour performance work was a buck more and hour and use guys got HALF , so the faster ya worked and could get the job done with out comebacks as they were FREE if you messed up ya learned ways to speed up your work to get that extra couple hours in in a day. Flat rate on a gear change was 4.2 hours as it did not make any difference on the gear change BUT depending on what ratio you were going to could mean changing the carrier also so if you were going from a 3.25 to a 4.30 locker then the carrier had to be change MORE work . I got one in and it was under the watchful eyes of three guys from DETROIT and on the time clock and time started when the order was handed to you., So you had to go find the car and bring it in get it up on the lift and go at it , i was sure glad i had a brand new impacts . pull tires drop shaft drain grease pull drums then axles and get the PIG out on the bench and tore down inspect parts walk to the part counter stand there and WAIT for dingledorrf to come over after he had his coffee and smoked two smokes look up the parts that you already had ordered a WEEK IN ADVANCE then rummage around tryen to find said part in his mess stand there and wait while clock is ticking , get parts clean parts and start STUFFEN things back together and getting the pattern correct and the backlash on the bench then back in th car put everything back together fill with the proper lube then change out the speedometer gears for the gear ratio , test drive park car come back in and have the ticket stamped . I beat the book by 1.2 hours , now with old age add in 6 hours.
 
Think I have a full set of I.T. flat rate manuals, don't look like they were ever used. Thought I bought a box of Blue Ribbon manuals but these were on the bottom, think they're from the early to mid 50s.
 

would anyone know of a copy of the 140 book or the Cub Cadet book online would you? I would love to see what their time estimates were and compare as to what it takes me for similar repairs. Not really curious enough to buy one, but it would be neat to see.
 

Just common repairs like an engine rebuild, engine swap, tune up, water pump replacement, charging system diagnosis, transmission rebuild, etc..
 
I don't think the local dealer ever used any "flat rate." They put the slowest guy on the job and billed actual hours because the bills always came out thousands higher than estimated, and no additional work was ever documented or performed. Just Opie the special needs broom pusher being suddenly promoted to full mechanic and tasked to do a TA job with no training and no help.

None of our tractors were hit by a coal bucket or left outside in various states of disassembly for years either, so there was no TWISTEN off any bolts.
 

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