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best way to weld new shift arm?

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sald

08-24-2018 07:08:28




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1940 Farmall A

I wanted to know the best way to access and weld a new shift arm on my A.

Dont want to do it while it is on the tractor. I removed the pin,spring,cup and rubber gasket to see a pin that holds the spherical part in place. It looks permanent. So do I remove the whole cover? What would someone do?
There is a short arm that someone welded on in the past. It is too short and sloppy.

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sald

09-01-2018 16:48:53




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 Re: best way to weld new shift arm? in reply to sald, 08-24-2018 07:08:28  
Just will not budge. Side facing seat is recessed. The side facing fender is flush with the tower housing. Soaked it and took the fender off. Can not get it to budge.



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sald

08-26-2018 17:04:05




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 Re: best way to weld new shift arm? in reply to sald, 08-24-2018 07:08:28  
GOOD YEAR
Sure Grip

9 -24

They are badly chewed up. Next spring I will replace them. What makes them interesting? The fact that the tips of the treads go past the center line?



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sald

08-25-2018 11:55:47




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 Re: best way to weld new shift arm? in reply to sald, 08-24-2018 07:08:28  
I tried to pm you, but it isnt activated. I would rather not put my address out on a plublic forum.



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gene bender

08-25-2018 12:52:21




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 Re: best way to weld new shift arm? in reply to sald, 08-25-2018 11:55:47  
send email bfarmall@sharontc.net and then I can give phone# also



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sald

08-25-2018 08:57:04




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 Re: best way to weld new shift arm? in reply to sald, 08-24-2018 07:08:28  
I will check again. Another member offered a part here, not sure what the part entails but it may be easier to replace the whole thing. I will check in a little while though, thanks.



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Dugger

08-25-2018 07:32:50




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 Re: best way to weld new shift arm? in reply to sald, 08-24-2018 07:08:28  
Pin 14 does come out

Most well used tractors get loose and almost
Fall out

Yours might be rusted in but it’s easier to work on

It while the cover is bolted to tractor

If it’s off of tractor it’s hard to hold
Soak it and start tapping
It will come out

Dugger



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sald

08-25-2018 04:50:59




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 Re: best way to weld new shift arm? in reply to sald, 08-24-2018 07:08:28  
You have a deal. How do we proceed?



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gene bender

08-25-2018 11:31:45




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 Re: best way to weld new shift arm? in reply to sald, 08-25-2018 04:50:59  
I need your address for shipping cost



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gene bender

08-24-2018 23:50:39




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 Re: best way to weld new shift arm? in reply to sald, 08-24-2018 07:08:28  
got one you can have for postage good used



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sald

08-24-2018 13:28:51




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 Re: best way to weld new shift arm? in reply to sald, 08-24-2018 07:08:28  
LOL... sorry you had to write all that. I know about all those things, just needed a context. Makes sense now.



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sald

08-24-2018 12:11:39




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 Re: best way to weld new shift arm? in reply to sald, 08-24-2018 07:08:28  
Thanks. Please help me understand what you mean by "belt" and "stationary work"



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Janicholson

08-24-2018 12:52:14




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 Re: best way to weld new shift arm? in reply to sald, 08-24-2018 12:11:39  
Tractors can be used as a source of mechanical power. A feed grinder, or elevator for grain, or an electrical emergency generator, can be powered by the tractor's PTO (Power Take Off) It is a splined shaft on the rear of the tractor. For these uses the PTO powers a stationary device. Thus the transmission is not powering the rear wheels. Some applications like a mower are used when moving. Belt work is the use of a (usually) long flat belt to power stationary devices. See link for a Mower application Jim

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55 50 ron

08-26-2018 15:13:34




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 Re: best way to weld new shift arm? in reply to Janicholson, 08-24-2018 12:52:14  
Jim,

Interesting tread on those rear tires. Any idea what brand? It's a tread I've not seen before.

Ron



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old

08-24-2018 12:36:33




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 Re: best way to weld new shift arm? in reply to sald, 08-24-2018 12:11:39  
Belt and stationary work is just that. Like say your running a mixer grinder off the PTO so your stationary as in not moving forward or back wards or your running a saw mill or a hammer mill off the flat belt pulley so again your stationary and the tractor is sitting in neutral and that makes it so most of the gears In the transmission are not moving so less oil is being sprayed around in it by the gears

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sald

08-24-2018 12:11:15




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 Re: best way to weld new shift arm? in reply to sald, 08-24-2018 07:08:28  
Thanks. Please help me understand what you mean by "belt" and "stationary work"

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steve706

08-24-2018 12:36:11




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 Re: best way to weld new shift arm? in reply to sald, 08-24-2018 12:11:15  
It means the tractor is not moving, but parked and running using either the pto or belt pully to run a stationary implement like a mill or log splitter.



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sald

08-24-2018 09:59:39




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 Re: best way to weld new shift arm? in reply to sald, 08-24-2018 07:08:28  
I think I will remove the 8 bolts and take it off. It will also allow me to look into the gear box for an inspection. I have the RTV if needed.



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Janicholson

08-24-2018 10:40:09




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 Re: best way to weld new shift arm? in reply to sald, 08-24-2018 09:59:39  
Good idea. There is an aluminum oil slinger that can fail on the bottom shaft. It looks like a gear. See diagram. If it is Ok, all is well with that issue. If broken and not making noise, the issue is PTO or belt work. When the tractor is in neutral, and running, the top rear bearings in the trans can have inadequate lube. So if no stationary work, no issue. Jim



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old

08-24-2018 09:43:40




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 Re: best way to weld new shift arm? in reply to sald, 08-24-2018 07:08:28  
In the long run you might be better off just finding a whole complete top cover with shiftier. I'm sure there are a number of use that would have one but the question is would we part with just that part



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sald

08-24-2018 08:31:19




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 Re: best way to weld new shift arm? in reply to sald, 08-24-2018 07:08:28  
I believe I was looking at 14. Not sure about 6. 14 looks like it is press fit permanently right at the bottle neck of #7.
I can try tapping at 14 with a small punch but it looks like it was ground on both sides at the factory to the point it is hardly discernable.



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Janicholson

08-24-2018 09:51:32




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 Re: best way to weld new shift arm? in reply to sald, 08-24-2018 08:31:19  
I am unsure how it is held in place. The tower could have slots from under the bottom that would allow the pin to be removed when the cover is taken off. Prt#6 is not really shown in the illustration, it is a different pin with a serial number break I think. The cover can be reinstalled with a thin coating of RTV sealant. (thin coat is the answer) If the original gasket stays in one piece, re use it. Jim

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Janicholson

08-24-2018 08:14:25




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 Re: best way to weld new shift arm? in reply to sald, 08-24-2018 07:08:28  
The diagram shown in the link should be like yours. The pin (6 or 14) should come out (the top may need to come off to get there) Jim



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