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Farmall M Tisco Sleeve

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Trent Couch

07-15-2018 13:11:45

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I ordered a tisco engine kit and all was going well with the install of the sleeves except the last Sleeve it cracked on me when installing. Now I went to the place where I ordered the kit and got them to send me another sleeve and it came in a box that said reliance on it so I knew it wasnít the same company as the kit I had got. Well my old sleeve fit nice and tight but with this new sleeve without freezing or anything it slid right down flush with the block with hardly any pressure. I did not hone the cylinder at all I cleaned it up using a scotch brite pad. I just want another tisco sleeve but it seems as those getting an individual sleeve from tisco is harder than it seems. Is there any vender on here that can get a tisco sleeve for me for a Farmall m 248 block for 4Ē pistons. The number on the tisco sleeve is TP-GE12 if that helps.

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07-15-2018 18:18:48

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 Re: Farmall M Tisco Sleeve in reply to Trent Couch, 07-15-2018 13:11:45  
I can't think of the guy's name right now at Powermax, but every time I called in to make an order, I got him and he knew exactly what I wanted. I always got everything quick. They were always great to deal with. Seems like they always had what I needed on the shelf and I got it all from one location. Now when I make an order with reliance it typically comes from 4 different locations and scattered throughout a week for delivery. Not that it is a bad thing, just makes it a little tougher to get parts on time.

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07-15-2018 17:33:55

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 Re: Farmall M Tisco Sleeve in reply to Trent Couch, 07-15-2018 13:11:45  
If you cracked a sleeve during install you should check that the bore is good and clean before installing. I found that out the hard way on 2 of mine when I redid it a couple of years ago. Bore was not clean enough and it took 2 sleeves for me to figure that out. Once it was cleaned the sleeves went in with no issues. They should drop in about 1/2 way and gently tapping with a soft block of wood should finish it the rest of the way.

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07-15-2018 17:26:51

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 Re: Farmall M Tisco Sleeve in reply to Trent Couch, 07-15-2018 13:11:45  
and by the way...
If you can rotate the sleeve in the bore with your hand, I definitely wouldn't trust it. I would be afraid it wouldn't transfer heat properly and you'd end up with some problems down the road.

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07-15-2018 17:23:26

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 Re: Farmall M Tisco Sleeve in reply to Trent Couch, 07-15-2018 13:11:45  
I guess I am basing most of my opinion from years and years of selling and using parts from Powermax, they seemed to be great quality.
I have rebuilt the last 3 engines using mostly reliance parts and haven't had any trouble, but there is an engine kit from them out in the shop waiting to go in a tractor. I hope I didn't just jinx myself.

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07-15-2018 18:06:47

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 Re: Farmall M Tisco Sleeve in reply to ih560, 07-15-2018 17:23:26  
Power Max was the best. Good quality great counter people. If you notice none of those people are working for the new company. In 15 years of dealing with powermax I put in one warranty claim. I had put in half a dozen within a year with reliance. They had cost me more money than I made. Not great for business.

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07-15-2018 16:18:06

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 Re: Farmall M Tisco Sleeve in reply to Trent Couch, 07-15-2018 13:11:45  
It doesn't surprise me that the reliance sleeve is junk. That company is a product of several good company's being bought up by a larger company. Of course they eliminated the quality stuff and replaced it with low quality stuff. I have stopped selling that stuff

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07-15-2018 14:24:35

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 Re: Farmall M Tisco Sleeve in reply to Trent Couch, 07-15-2018 13:11:45  
That seems strange, I have always had good luck with reliance parts. I am pretty sure they are a vendor for TISCO as well. I have ordered stuff directly from them before and inside the reliance box was a TISCO box with the item in it.
Is the new liner so loose that you can rotate it in the bore?

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Trent Couch

07-15-2018 15:27:27

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 Re: Farmall M Tisco Sleeve in reply to ih560, 07-15-2018 14:24:35  
Yes it is Iím not sure what the deal is but I know that the figment of the ďTiscoĒ Sleeve was a lot tighter. And I didnít try to rotate it but I feel pretty certain that with rubber gloves on you would be able to. Iím not calling any names on companies I hope maybe the sleeve they sent was on the smaller side of the scale for their tolerances and now I can get one thatís a little bigger but we shall see I still am waitin to hear back from the company I got the kit from.

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Gary Mitchell

07-16-2018 07:53:52

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 Re: Farmall M Tisco Sleeve in reply to Trent Couch, 07-15-2018 15:27:27  
If the next one has the same issue, were it me, I'd smear a tiny amt of fine valve grinding compound on one side of the outer portion of the sleeve. Just make sure the groove in the block and top of the sleeve is clean before disappearing into the block. That'll snug it up. It contains metal and causes a relatively decent amt of contact for cooling. BTDT and it's a fix that's worked for me. gm

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used red mn

07-16-2018 05:18:21

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 Re: Farmall M Tisco Sleeve in reply to Trent Couch, 07-15-2018 15:27:27  
Do you recall one of the other 3 sleeves taking a little more effort to get it to seat? If so maybe take that one out and see how this one fits in that bore. I would definitely want the correct size ..puck.. with a step machined on it to remove a new sleeve.

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