Fluids in IH 2444

This is embarrassing. I have a IH 2444, just bought it, the guy told me to put motor oil in the spout on the top hood (got it) and check it right below the distributor (got it.)

The vented fill hole by the gearshift he said was hydraulic fluid, and had no idea what the level should be. I have a hydraulic line about to get replaced for leaking, and it was acting like it was low (complaining about lifting the bucket etc) so I gave it a random amount (about 2 quarts) which helped the complaining, increased the leak.

Checking the service manual I have for it (not an owners manual) it lists how much transmission fluid to add to it... Oh dear. Is that right next to the gear shift (which would make sense) did I put hydraulic fluid in it? Either the hydraulic or transmission checks/fills someplace else, where?

My last tractor was an itty bitty Kubota, the gearshift fill port got transmission, brakes and hydraulic.

Help?
 
Hi the 2444 is the industrial model of the agricultural model 444 with some differences.
One of the differences is the hydraulic system, on Ag 444 there is 1 or 2 engine mount hydraulic pumps and the reservoir is
under the seat and filler plug is behind the seat on top of the housing and full is above shelf when you look in filler plug.
On 2444 the hydraulic reservoir is the trans/diff case and filler plug is by gear shift and on 444 the full lever is a pipe plug
on right side of trans case by right foot rest and left brake pedal. I am not sure if this is the full level for 2444 or if it
has to be over full for loader/backhoe operation. 2444 may also may have a front mounted hydraulic pump driven off the
crankshaft. Many different configurations for 2444.
Both 444 and 2444 hydraulic systems use CIH Hytran or equivalent fluid.

Always check you Operator's Manual for your 2444's configuration.

Hope this helps
JimB
 
Hi :) Thank you for replying!
I have no operators manual. I have a shop manual, but that's it.

I found a filler plug behind the seat, checked it, it's full of hydraulic fluid, even after spilling some while replacing a hydraulic hose today, so I guess it was overfull. The brakes are working REALLY well right now, I assume they work off the hydraulic fluid?

So if I have a vent cap thing at the gearshift, and a filler behind the seat, I have no other transmission fluid required?

Thank you for your help!!
Bit of a learning curve, and I know no one local to ask.
Pearl
 
Hi, as I said in my previous posts, there were several different configurations of the 2444
including the different configurations for hydraulics. Without seeing pictures of how the
hydraulics are connected it is difficult to tell you which hydraulic system(s) your 2444 has.

I would check the trans/diff level at the right foot rest beside the left brake pedal to see
if hydraulic fluid or transmission grease(black and thick) is present? This will possibly
indicate if your 2444 uses trans/diff as a secondary hydraulic reservoir. Does your 2444 have
a forward/rev lever on the dash? Does it only have a loader and 3pt hitch or loader/backhoe?

Re brakes are mechanical on the 2444.

JimB
 
(quoted from post at 09:54:02 05/17/18)

I would check the trans/diff level at the right foot rest beside the left brake pedal to see
if hydraulic fluid or transmission grease(black and thick) is present? This will possibly
indicate if your 2444 uses trans/diff as a secondary hydraulic reservoir. Does your 2444 have
a forward/rev lever on the dash? Does it only have a loader and 3pt hitch or loader/backhoe?
I'll check there.
Does have a forward reverse lever, has loader, 3 pt, connections for backhoe but not in use, not sure if they ever have been.

Thank you!
 
(quoted from post at 10:13:37 05/17/18) Binder Books has a reprint of the Operator's Manual. Save yourself some grief and buy one.
1082662 International 2444 Tractor Operator's Manual, 88 pgs $21.95
/quote]
Oh awesome, thank you! I'll do that as soon as I can afford it :)
Thank you!
 
Copy of a post I put on an IH forum, asking here too...


IH 2444 #05123 about 1969 version, I think. It has a loader and 3 point, has connections for back hydraulic but nothing hooked up to it.

I have a manual ordered but do not have it yet. Need the tractor running, I have work to get done ....

What is the correct amount of hydraulic fluid for this thing? The shop manual I have says 3 gallons, but I have drained off somewhere around 8! I was told that how it was running it sounded like it had too much fluid, try taking some off. I did, then more, then more, still couldn't decide if it was correct. I decided I'd drain it totally and start with a measured amount, since I'm not doing well at guessing what the level should be. But 3 gallons is looking way too low, and I think that may be for a machine without a loader installed.

Secondary question to this: I'm draining it off at a female square holed magnetic plug that faces the back of the tractor. It's above the 3 point, below the male plug that sits on the top of a cubical reservoir thing that is below/behind the seat. There is a male square plug on the underside of what I would say is the axle (?) or transmission (?) just below the reservoir, drain plug for the axle or whatever. Am I draining it at the correct place? Do I have all the fluid out? Not sure if I should be trying to get that square plug loose, it will take serious work, it's not easy to remove.

I apologize for not knowing the right words for what I am seeing, I'm good with cars, but trying to learn a tractor from scratch. I'll do better with words when I have a manual.

If it matters, the reason I was told the take off some fluid is it ran fairly well, I did a bunch of brushcutting before the grass got thick, then blew a hydraulic line. I replaced it, wasn't sure of what the fluid level should be, added some, and the tractor is now losing power when I am running the brushcutter, to the point where it loses power going uphill with the cutter off, running on grass I have already cut. I have been concerned I am going to get it stuck because it can't go up the hill it has gone up easily before. I was told too much fluid could be making the clutch slip, take some off. (If there's a way to clean the clutch easily without taking things apart I'd love to know it!)

Any help anyone can offer would be GREATLY appreciated
Pearl
 

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