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truckerlary

05-10-2018 05:40:25




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Can anyone tell me how narrow the width on a 450 can be for loading on a trailer. The tractor has 15.5x38's and the rims are already reversed. I need this tractor to fit on a 81 1/2 wide trailer.




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caterpillar guy

05-10-2018 11:42:07




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 Re: 450 width in reply to truckerlary, 05-10-2018 05:40:25  
As has already been said. If turned in ad ( ) it will fit on your trailer. I would set at 60 inch centers and forget all the nonsense.



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DR. EVIL

05-10-2018 06:54:04




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 Re: 450 width in reply to truckerlary, 05-10-2018 05:40:25  
The pages from the operators manual are on the RED POWER SITE, General IH topic, 3rd page of posts about half way down the page, topic is 560D width plowing with IH 3-16 plow. Last post has 3 pages from the manual.



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rustyfarmall

05-10-2018 06:49:26




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 Re: 450 width in reply to truckerlary, 05-10-2018 05:40:25  
You might also want to determine the weight of that 450, and verify the weight capacity of the trailer. If the trailer is rated for 7,000 pounds, the 450 will most likely be too heavy.



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DR. EVIL

05-10-2018 06:31:47




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 Re: 450 width in reply to truckerlary, 05-10-2018 05:40:25  
If by saying the wheels are "reversed" you mean they are dished in, like "()", then there's a pretty good chance it will fit on your trailer. 450 & M are same width except M has deep well rims that are not adjustable on the cast wheel. I hauled my M on a 81-1/2" wide trailer only reversing one wheel set about midway on the axle, had plenty of clearance between the fenders on the trailer.
If the wheels are dished in but set way out at the ends of the axles it should still fit.
The 450 used double bevel rims and have four different mounting positions on the cast wheel. There's a topic here about 560's that has the pages from the operators manual how to change position of the rims on the wheels, the 450 & 560 are very similar if not identicle.

When I hauled My M home I took everything necessary to reverse one wheel to narrow it up to get on my trailer, big floor jack, big 3/4" breaker bar and sockets. All stuff that would have been handy if I had problems along the road on the 200 mile trip.

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DeltaRed

05-10-2018 06:15:20




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 Re: 450 width in reply to truckerlary, 05-10-2018 05:40:25  
That tractor can be narrowed up to 56" (center to center),or narrower.Overall,less than 6ft. However that gets a bit on the 'tippy' side.Not good for a novice.60"(c/c) is common on tractors that actually 'farm'.Both my SuperM and 400(others too) are set at 60" inches to go down a 30" corn row. As was said,you may need a wider trailer.



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d7fever

05-10-2018 06:00:43




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 Re: 450 width in reply to truckerlary, 05-10-2018 05:40:25  
I think you need a wider trailer. Speaking from experience, if you are in the trucking business, you need a minimum width of 96 inches on your trailer, 102 is better.



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FastFarmall

05-10-2018 20:08:38




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 Re: 450 width in reply to d7fever, 05-10-2018 06:00:43  
In the case of Agriculture Husbandry, the moving of most farm equipment has a state excemption.



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