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Looking at a 560 - What to look for?

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Ken Christopher

05-02-2018 06:07:42




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Hello all,

I am helping a friend tomorrow going to look at a 560 he is interested in. He knows little to nothing about tractors, but he will have me along with him and I have a pretty good sense of what I am doing (or at least that is what I tell myself). He just purchased a small farm in southern MN. Tractor will be used for light to medium duty work around the farm - mowing and square baling, snow removal (tractor does have a wide front and all hyd. loader), tires seem worn but decent from the photo. 2-3 sets of wheel weights. Looks to be overall pretty original. The owner says the tractor runs well, but does have a few small oil leaks. Also has leaky hydraulic cylinders (not typically an issue to repair in my experience). Has power steering, and fast hitch with 3 point conversion. Also mentioned it has an upgraded hydraulic pump. I'm not sure what he means by this (I am a letter series and pre-'39 IH guy).. But any insight to this would be appreciated.

Also, I need to know what should I watch for? This would be my first experience look at a tractor with a T/A, and quite frankly have never used one. I have included a photo of the tractor, and look forward to my first interaction with one.

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Frantz

05-03-2018 19:17:06




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 Re: Looking at a 560 - What to look for? in reply to Ken Christopherson, 05-02-2018 06:07:42  
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I know we're a day late here, but I thought the recall was early in production so only 1958 models would have the triangle. They didn't do the stamping if the axle was fixed during production did they?



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rustred

05-02-2018 17:59:13




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 Re: Looking at a 560 - What to look for? in reply to Ken Christopherson, 05-02-2018 06:07:42  
if its a diesel engine you wont find a tractor better on fuel economy. those fenders look goofy as they are not for that tractor. even that loader does nothing to compliment the tractor.actually its goofy looking too.something dont look right on that front end either. no sense worry in about the diff , as they would have all been updated . applies to the 1958 model.mine has the triangle stamp on the serial #. they are a pretty good tractor .beats the hell out of the farmall M . way more improvements and a lot easier handling.i would say they rank right up there. dont worry about TA as those tractor work just fine without it. bonus if it works. about a 1500.00 unit tops with all that goofy stuff on it.

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ejr-Ia.

05-02-2018 17:30:41




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 Re: Looking at a 560 - What to look for? in reply to Ken Christopherson, 05-02-2018 06:07:42  
One thing I noticed is the flat top fenders on it they can bring 500 or more if their in good shape.I have two 560 diesels for a long time and they are fine with me.



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old weldor

05-02-2018 16:38:17




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 Re: Looking at a 560 - What to look for? in reply to Ken Christopherson, 05-02-2018 06:07:42  
These tractors were all recalled for rearend upgrades. There should be a small triangle stamped on the serial number plate. That means the upgrade was completed. The gas IH six cylinder tractors are pretty thirsty.



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caterpillar guy

05-02-2018 13:42:51




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 Re: Looking at a 560 - What to look for? in reply to Ken Christopherson, 05-02-2018 06:07:42  
The 560 is still haunted by the rearend issues of the past around my area to the point of reduced price over other models. I would want to see if there are papers showing the bearings were changed on it. I think for the horse they seem long geared and clumsy compared to like an 06,56,66 series or even the 100 series.



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povertyknob

05-02-2018 10:39:15




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 Re: Looking at a 560 - What to look for? in reply to Ken Christopherson, 05-02-2018 06:07:42  
I will add to this, I would go through the gears and make sure everything sounds good like no knocking from a chipped or missing tooth and the tractor doesn't pop out of gears and that it shifts into a gear with out going into 2 at a time..
The TA wouldn't bother me, they will go almost forever in high side, just isn't as handy, most of them are out anyways, fix it as time and money allows..

The 560 rear axles are fine, people seem to forget that they were all fixed by IH in 1959 and were made pretty well bulletproof

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dhermesc

05-02-2018 12:49:56




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 Re: Looking at a 560 - What to look for? in reply to povertyknob, 05-02-2018 10:39:15  
I agree on the axles and the TA. The axles are a non issue after 60 years. The TA is handy - but I haven't figure out for what if you aren't doing tillage work - it only slows the tractor down going up hill when running a baler.


Sloppy shifters on tractors with lots of hours can be a PIA with it getting stuck in two gears at once - the old diesel 560 we had did it a lot - would turn a 5 minute job into an hour real quick when it happened - but that was with a 12 year old doing the job. After the engine and transmission the clutch is the biggest thing I would check out, making sure it doesn't slip under load. Most brake issues can be repaired by the owner using the manual. The degree of difficulty goes up significantly if oil is leaking into the brake housing.


560s are good tractors and can run lots of hours.

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ss55

05-02-2018 08:38:02




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 Re: Looking at a 560 - What to look for? in reply to Ken Christopherson, 05-02-2018 06:07:42  
Gas or diesel engine? Diesels use glow plugs to start. Search the YT archives for lots of info.

Look at the condition of the coolant and hydraulic fluid. A Fast Hitch conversion may not work as well or be as flexible as a real 3 point hitch (706, 656 models). Is the loader easy to remove and reattach? Is the loader a Farmhand or early Westendorf brand? A loader tractor needs fluid in the rear tires for extra ballast. Is there deep rust around the rear tire valves? If the seller has either tire chains, snow bucket extensions, or a Heat Houser, see if any can be included in the deal. The wide front end is an aftermarket unit, check its condition and the brand, some brands are better than others.

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BarnyardEngineering

05-02-2018 07:40:07




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 Re: Looking at a 560 - What to look for? in reply to Ken Christopherson, 05-02-2018 06:07:42  
The 6 cylinder engines can be a little cold-blooded first thing in the morning, so if you notice that you have to keep working the choke every time you let the clutch out for the first few minutes, that's normal. It should clear up once it gets a little heat going.
Everybody will tell you it's not tuned right but they never tell you what to tune or how to tune it, so you just have to live with it.

The primary noise from the tractor should be the engine. No whining or buzzing or squealing. It's fixable but there's an issue.

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Charlie M

05-02-2018 07:24:20




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 Re: Looking at a 560 - What to look for? in reply to Ken Christopherson, 05-02-2018 06:07:42  
Definitely check the TA. If there is an issue it will slip on the low side. Tractor is still useable without a working TA but in my mind affects the selling price. It can be fixed if one wants to spend the money and they are handy to have. They just have to be used properly and not abused. May want to check the brakes. Old IH disk brakes suck in my opinion but when they are in good shape will work. If they don't hold they can be fixed but again maybe affects the price. Tires are always something to check because of the cost to replace. Finally if one plans a lot of heavy work with a 560 should probably have deep pockets for gas.

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DR. EVIL

05-02-2018 06:55:10




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 Re: Looking at a 560 - What to look for? in reply to Ken Christopherson, 05-02-2018 06:07:42  
IH offered an option of a 17 GPM hyd pump vs standard 12 GPM on 560's. Good option on a loader tractor.
The gas 263 should idle smooth, load it some with the brakes idling in gear moving to make sure all 6 cylinders are firing. At slightly higher rpm do same test of TA, make sure tractor doesn't slip or stop when moving TA lever on left of platform forward or back, should be NO break in power. Make sure the TA is adjusted correctly, should be able to stop and shift to neutral easily in both lo and hi side of TA. Check PTO to make sure it works and pto brake stops stub shaft when the lever is latched forward. Power steering should allow steering while stopped with nothing in the loader bucket. Check for oil leaks, good hot oil psi at idle. Ask seller about any recent engine, clutch, or rearend repair work. If seller can't name the last repair done walk away.

The 560 gets a bad rap because of the rearend repair fiasco, ONLY tractors used in a small area, south central states where they ridged fields with Middle-busters had rearend issues. 55+ years after the repairs they have proven to be a good tractor.

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