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H Farmall cottenpicker

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03-12-2001 18:49:14

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Where there highcrop Hs under cottenpickers with a single front (back) wheel like Ms

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Guy Fay

03-13-2001 07:04:24

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 Re: H Farmall cottenpicker in reply to Bob, 03-12-2001 18:49:14  
There were both standard height Hs with reverse operating, and reverse operating with the higher clearence drop axles, H tractors used in cotton pickers.

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john d

03-12-2001 19:18:29

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 Re: H Farmall cottenpicker in reply to Bob, 03-12-2001 18:49:14  
I saw one in the basement of the American History building of the Smithsonian Institute in D.C. Pretty impressive looking machine! Had a write-up of its history with an estimate of how many bales of cotton it had picked in its career.

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03-12-2001 19:59:41

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 Re: Re: H Farmall cottenpicker in reply to john d, 03-12-2001 19:18:29  
Here is a paragraph from a book that I have. "Engineering reports for the cotton harvest season of 1943 record that 12 of the high drum harvesters mounted on Farmall H tractors with high clearance attachments were built. Ten were sold outright to cotton growers in the Mississippi delta; Phoenix, Arizona; and Fresno, CA territories. Engineering test ran the remaining two machines."

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03-12-2001 20:03:53

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 Re: Re: Re: H Farmall cottenpicker in reply to James, 03-12-2001 19:59:41  
I have an M high drum cotton picker tractor. It was pictured on the Jan. 2001 cover of Gas Engine Magazine. Sorry to post 2 follow ups but I ran out of room on the first one.

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03-13-2001 05:48:29

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 Re: Re: Re: Re: H Farmall cottenpicker in reply to James, 03-12-2001 20:03:53  
I've seen a couple of photos of an M cotton picker, but have never seen one in person. It looks like the operator seat is turned 180 degreess from that of a non-cotton picker M. Is that how they are operated? Do you run 'em in reverse gear? I know very little about 'em.

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Harold H

03-13-2001 11:31:37

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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: H Farmall cottenpicker in reply to Glenn, 03-13-2001 05:48:29  

On the high drum cotton pickers (20 spindles high) bull gear housings were mounted on the flange type rear axle housings. These housings raised the tractor for additional crop clearance (along with a tall single wheel guide fork) and reversed the operation of the tractor so they had 5 speeds in the direction of travel which now had the former rear of the tractor as the front of the cotton picker. On the low drum cotton pickers (14 spindles high) the rear end was reversed by turning over the differential and using a reverse transmission top which had the forks and shifter on the opposite side from the regular top. This also acomplished the reverse operation. After two row self propelled pickers came out, a lot of former high drum cotton picker tractors were converted for use as spray rigs by using the high drum bull gears and guide wheel to obtain crop clearance and the low drum reversable transmission top and flipping the differential to get it headed in the right direction again. Although there were initially a few high drum H cotton pickers, they were underpowered, and most all high drums were mounted on M's and later models of the same design sise (SM, 400 & 450). Most low drums were mounted on H's and same design size (SH, 300, 350)although lots of low drums were also mounted on M/s (SM, 400, 450) and some low drums were mounted on C's & SC's. In our area, were most all of the pickers were high drum, once the two row self propelled cotton pickers came out, the one row pickers faded away fast, althugh IH continued to build one rows for a number of years for use in certain areas. Harold H

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03-13-2001 10:58:06

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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: H Farmall cottenpicker in reply to Glenn, 03-13-2001 05:48:29  
Glenn, Yes, the seat was turned around and on a separate (raised) platform. My grandfather had four of these machines on the farm southeast of Bakersfield, CA. Two were on M chassis and two were on Super M chassis. Only one time did he remove the basket and platform to use it as a row-crop tractor. It was just too much hassle to change back and forth. I'm not certain how travel direction reversal was accomplished but I do know when it was changed over there were 5 speeds in the direction the seat faced.

The belly pump operated two hydraulic circuits through a selector valve. One circuit raised the drum and the other dumped the basket. Being single acting, the basket had to be pulled back over center by hand if you were parked on an incline.

I remember spending many hours perched atop the blower housing behind my Dad watching row after row of cotton disappear below him. As a kid it sure was neat to spit over the side from that height...until I got caught one time.

It was the first piece of machinery I ever 'steered.' He told me to keep the row going between those "pointy things" in front. We quit growing cotton by the time I got to first grade.

There is a good picture of one on the back cover of Red Power magazine a couple of issues back.

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