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elton fancher

11-23-2017 17:45:29




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What all tractors will a 282 from a 560 bolt into?




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Roger Tomfohrde

11-23-2017 18:25:54




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 Re: 282 in reply to elton fancher, 11-23-2017 17:45:29  
460; 560, 656, 660, 706 all had the same block/crank, I suppose a 806 gas tractor but that would drop the hp if you are talking the same block.



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Roger Tomfohrde

11-23-2017 20:45:30




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 Re: 282 in reply to Roger Tomfohrde, 11-23-2017 18:25:54  
The D282 block and the C263 share the same crankshaft specs, and part numbers. I have a gas with the diesel crank in it. I believe the C301 is the same but have not crossed the numbers. 606 is the same as a utility 460 but with much better steering and hydraulics. I am more referring to what will BOLT in it. The 560 I have has a gas engine with the diesel crank, clutch,flywheel and starter because they were in better shape from the donor tractor. Runs very good. Heads are different between the engines as the valves are larger even between D282's in a 560, 656, and 706 so performance is different. I had a 706 with a D282 in it but believe it to be a 560 engine because we could not get 72 hp out of it to save our souls. This was on a dyno with a fresh major overhaul and a certified mechanic doing the adjustments.

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Roger Tomfohrde

11-23-2017 21:06:23




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 Re: 282 in reply to Roger Tomfohrde, 11-23-2017 20:45:30  
I forgot the front cover and maybe the rear plate have differences between them on a lot of them.



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rustred

11-23-2017 18:39:23




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 Re: 282 in reply to Roger Tomfohrde, 11-23-2017 18:25:54  
i know the 460 block is not the same.



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Roger Tomfohrde

11-23-2017 21:14:43




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 Re: 282 in reply to rustred, 11-23-2017 18:39:23  
I have heard people change the crank and pistons on gas to get more hp.



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Roger Tomfohrde

11-23-2017 20:30:28




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 Re: 282 in reply to rustred, 11-23-2017 18:39:23  
Block is the same. Crankshaft and pistons are different. Connecting rods are the same 221 to 26. At least for the gassers.



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rustred

11-23-2017 20:41:32




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 Re: 282 in reply to Roger Tomfohrde, 11-23-2017 20:30:28  
do u know that for sure as in hands on checking? or hear say? i have measured my 460 block against a 282 block and the 236 block was shorter in height. i have also used 560 pistons in a 460 block and dont see where they differ.been hearing this all the time but i actually did that with no problem. i know they are both the same bore. from what i have seen the con. rods are shorter.



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Dieseltech

11-24-2017 13:02:50




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 Re: 282 in reply to rustred, 11-23-2017 20:41:32  
D236 and D282 had the same deck height. Rods were the same, crank and piston pin height were the difference. Early diesels even used the same rods as gas with the smaller pin, then IH made the diesel pins larger. My guess is some one cut the deck lower on the 236 block you had. D301 is the same height also, yank the sleeves from the 236 and 282 and you have the 301 bore size, BUT you will still have the counter bore at the top to deal with. The late 236 and 282 blocks with the heavy press fit sleeves have a much smaller counter bore than the early slip fit sleeves used.

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roger tomfohrde

11-24-2017 00:13:10




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 Re: 282 in reply to rustred, 11-23-2017 20:41:32  
Connecting rod have the same part number. Wrist pin hole in piston allows the longer crank to keep from hitting the head. I would think560 with a 460 crank would be lower in compression. I had a couple 560 with 706 pistons.



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rustred

11-23-2017 18:17:04




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 Re: 282 in reply to elton fancher, 11-23-2017 17:45:29  
the 660 and early 706 has the same engine. the 460 has the 236 which is a shorter stroke.



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rustred

11-23-2017 18:33:06




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 Re: 282 in reply to rustred, 11-23-2017 18:17:04  
better add the 606 to the list also. 806 is totally different engine.



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elton fancher

11-24-2017 13:43:58




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 Re: 282 in reply to rustred, 11-23-2017 18:33:06  
Thanks for the replys. I just bought a 560 that may not be worth saving. Do not know what shape the engine is in.



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