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MIKE NORTON

03-08-2001 13:34:03




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I HAVE 20 ACRES WITH ABOUT 1/2 OF IT IN TREES. LOOKING TO BUY A TRACTOR WITH LOADER TO HELP CLEAN UP. IS A 504 A GOOD TRACTOR? ALSO WHAT IS A GOOD ONE WITH A LOADER GOING TO SET ME BACK? DO THEY ALL HAVE POWER STEERING?




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Denny Frisk

03-10-2001 06:59:55




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 Re: IH 504 WITH LOADER in reply to MIKE NORTON, 03-08-2001 13:34:03  
The C-153 engine I was told was a larger version of the C-135 engine in the C. It was a wet sleeve engine I was told like the A,B, & C. The H Super H, 300 & 350 were dry sleeve engines so the engine can be rebuilt to new spec. The 504 should be able to have the wet liners and pistons replaced too. 504's were short due to the 4-cyl. engine which made weight transfer off the rear end during loader work a problem without lots of ballast. A longer tractor like the 656 would be a better tractor for heavy loader work. 504 would be more nimble in close quarters though. The 504 is about 40-45 HP, 656 is about 60-65, the 3020 Deere mentioned in the other post is 70. I have a loader on my Super H with no PS and it works very well except when I have a full bucket of rock or sand. Dad's '51 M with loader has Char-Lyn P/S and I almost prefer the SH without P/S for most things. But Then I'm partial to the SH anyhow...

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John

03-09-2001 15:43:18




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 Re: IH 504 WITH LOADER in reply to MIKE NORTON, 03-08-2001 13:34:03  
I had a 504 gas with a IH 2000 loader on it I sold it this winter. The tractor is too light in my opinion for loader work mine had loaded tires and I could hardly move with a bucket of sand any more weight and I would pick the back off the ground. other than that power was so-so it ran good I didn't like the tranny in it you had to push in the clutch and wait what seems like forever before the gears slow enough to shift and the clutch peddle takes way to much force to push in for loader use I had many days with a sore leg. I sold it and bought a few years older tractor a 3020 jd for about the same price with a loader and I they dont even compare easy shifting ,good brakes, better hyd., lots more weight and power, twice the stearing (both power), I would not buy another 504 after now unless it was real cheap. my 2 cents

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Duner Wi

03-09-2001 15:24:10




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 Re: IH 504 WITH LOADER in reply to MIKE NORTON, 03-08-2001 13:34:03  
I have seen them from $1,500.00 to over $5,000.00.
Reverse is very slow unless it has the shuttle gears . Re:504 gas , engine does not have sleeves from the factory and pistons are not as easy to find as sleeve and piston sets for tractors that use them.



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S-E Michigan Part Timer

03-08-2001 19:43:48




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 Re: IH 504 WITH LOADER in reply to MIKE NORTON, 03-08-2001 13:34:03  
Are you planning on farming any of it? 504's in general are good tractors (good hydraulics too!). No, they don't all have power steering. Ours has the C153 engine, which I think is the same displacement as the Super C, so keep that in mind if you plan on any heavy work with it. Not sure about the diesel version.



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