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dgoodman2

05-13-2017 20:02:24




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Hey guys. Was looking at this tractor for some parts. The owner calling it Super M and so does sticker. But I don't see hydraulics under gas tank.

Is this M or Super M?

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kcm.MN

05-16-2017 07:36:58




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 Re: What is this. in reply to dgoodman2, 05-13-2017 20:02:24  
Yeah, them JD guys'll never know the difference. :lol:


Just teasing guys - but this "is" the Farmall section ya' know! :P



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braol

05-16-2017 07:08:51




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 Re: What is this. in reply to dgoodman2, 05-13-2017 20:02:24  
Well, I may be a brand-new Farmall owner but as an experienced mechanic it almost looks like the tractor is sporting old replacement tin with new decals. In the end, I guess as long as it runs and you enjoy the machine it is a win for everybody!



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rustred

05-14-2017 08:25:01




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 Re: What is this. in reply to dgoodman2, 05-13-2017 20:02:24  
the serial # will tell you.



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henryv11

05-14-2017 07:30:00




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 Re: What is this. in reply to dgoodman2, 05-13-2017 20:02:24  
Wouldn't the serial number tell you something or isn't the tag there.



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D beatty

05-14-2017 07:23:55




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 Re: What is this. in reply to dgoodman2, 05-13-2017 20:02:24  
It looks like somebodys cobble job.



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F-Dean

05-14-2017 07:08:02




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 Re: What is this. in reply to dgoodman2, 05-13-2017 20:02:24  
Could it be a M that had the engine rebuilt with Super M sleeves & Pistons? Thus, some may consider it a "Super Powered" M.



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rustyfarmall

05-14-2017 06:54:32




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 Re: What is this. in reply to dgoodman2, 05-13-2017 20:02:24  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see

BINGO!!!



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Donald in mn

05-14-2017 04:50:46




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 Re: What is this. in reply to dgoodman2, 05-13-2017 20:02:24  
looks to be what the ford N series guys call a franken tractor one made up from parts of different model year tractors.



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dgoodman2

05-14-2017 18:24:17




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 Re: What is this. in reply to Donald in mn, 05-14-2017 04:50:46  
Donald. That has become my conclusion also. Seems right on target. I believe I'll just leave it alone.

Thanks.



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dgoodman2

05-14-2017 04:14:16




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 Re: What is this. in reply to dgoodman2, 05-13-2017 20:02:24  
I did notice the brakes and was thinking that was a regular M. It has some plumbing in the belly so I was thinking pump at distributor was added later. All indications of a M.

Just curious. He says it's a Super because it has 3 bolt starter. Is there a 2 or 3 bolt.

Thanks.



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D Slater

05-14-2017 04:53:38




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 Re: What is this. in reply to dgoodman2, 05-14-2017 04:14:16  
Yes 3 bolt starter after a serial break, that's why I said stage 2 center housing. Also has extra bosses on center housing above left hydraulic outlet holes. When drilled and threaded were used for battery box mounting on a SW-6 with frame rails. Doesn't have the starter setup for a stage 2 SM. It had a pull rod operation from the bracket bolted to rear fuel tank support. Bracket is only used on stage 2 SM that came without a engine driven liftall system and was also used for choke rod and belt pulley gear box operating rod if equipped. Stage 2 amp gauge box should have the ignition switch in cover.

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D Slater

05-14-2017 03:19:40




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 Re: What is this. in reply to dgoodman2, 05-13-2017 20:02:24  
Looks like both, need to look closer to see what's what. Looks like a stage 2 SM center housing, stage 2 SM frame rails and can't be sure but looks like the bigger diameter upper pipe end to air cleaner. Think if the pipe came on a M it would be late enough to have disc brakes. Front wheel pictured is for a real late M, SM through 450. Carburetor choke lever is on a M side. M&W hydraulic pump on the tractor. Battery box and shift lever is added or a M rear end put under the parts. Would check to see if engine is a SM. If so maybe mostly a M rear put on a SM chassis with a few other things.

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Rex Simpkins

05-14-2017 03:43:57




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 Re: What is this. in reply to D Slater, 05-14-2017 03:19:40  
It looks just like mine, a Stage 2 Super M that was ordered with a belly pump--then some time later someone wanted live hydraulics so they put a live pump on it and used the belly pump area for reservoir.



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Rex Simpkins

05-14-2017 03:47:53




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 Re: What is this. in reply to Rex Simpkins, 05-14-2017 03:43:57  
OOPS, missed the brakes well its not a Stage 2. except for that it is set up like mine, Louisville serial L509XXX



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Bob M

05-13-2017 21:05:59




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 Re: What is this. in reply to dgoodman2, 05-13-2017 20:02:24  
Band brakes make it a regular M.

Live pump is aftermarket - Behlen perhaps?



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Lmack

05-13-2017 20:53:05




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 Re: What is this. in reply to dgoodman2, 05-13-2017 20:02:24  
It has hydraulics. Look at the distributor.



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Gary Mitchell

05-14-2017 09:04:40




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 Re: What is this. in reply to Lmack, 05-13-2017 20:53:05  
It also has the battery box seat of a super. gm



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