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Farmall 140 and a corn picker?

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Jeff0253

01-24-2017 14:12:53




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Hi All--

Assuming both machines are in good shape, could a Farmall 140 in low gear pull a one-row corn picker? A moderate variety, not 200-bpa corn.

Thanks,

Jeff




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tractorguy2

01-27-2017 07:34:34




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 Re: Farmall 140 and a corn picker? in reply to Jeff0253, 01-24-2017 14:12:53  
Grandpa used a Ford 8n with a two row MM corn picker.



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BarnyardEngineering

01-27-2017 05:50:38




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 Re: Farmall 140 and a corn picker? in reply to Jeff0253, 01-24-2017 14:12:53  
Can someone explain to me the benefit of ear corn? If there's so much feed value in the cob why do we harvest with combines and blow the cob on the ground? Seems like an awful waste.

Is the cob good for more than making tobacco pipes, or as a substitute for toilet paper in the outhouse?



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Roger46

01-25-2017 12:20:42




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 Re: Farmall 140 and a corn picker? in reply to Jeff0253, 01-24-2017 14:12:53  
I was always amazed at my dad. Back in the early 1960's he bought this 2-PR IH corn picker and pulled it with a Super H in the Missouri river hills of So Dak. He pulled a flare box wagon behind and when he went up some of the hills the tires were slipping on the old Super H especially if he had much corn on the wagon.



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Jeff0253

01-25-2017 12:26:23




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 Re: Farmall 140 and a corn picker? in reply to Roger46, 01-25-2017 12:20:42  
Roger 46, I picked corn with an H when I was a kid back in the '60's. However, the fields were flat, so we never had traction problems. But the 2PR was a two-row picker, no?



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Leroy

01-25-2017 08:23:38




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 Re: Farmall 140 and a corn picker? in reply to Jeff0253, 01-24-2017 14:12:53  
Pulled a 1 row Oliver picker for years with a 41 H and NEVER used first gear only second. And I have tried first with Deere picker on Deere tractor and would not work, just chewed things up, had to stay in second for it to work. Many many a picker was used with smaller tractors than yours, your power was what 2 row pickers needed.



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Jeff0253

01-25-2017 06:13:03




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 Re: Farmall 140 and a corn picker? in reply to Jeff0253, 01-24-2017 14:12:53  
Thanks to all for the great responses! It looks to me that I can probably do the job with the 140. I'm about to buy the picker, which is a one-row New Idea (model 323 I think?). I can afford another used tractor if necessary, but it's good to know that I might not need it.

Now, to hijack my own thread, this all got me to thinking. Always an odd experience, lol! Do you guys think that some company will someday start building corn pickers again? I know several guys who still pick the corn and grind it on the cob or shell some as needed. Therefore, they don't use combines. I wonder if there are enough of us corn picker users to constitute a market for new machines. What do you guys think?

Best,

Jeff

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gene bender

01-26-2017 11:49:26




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 Re: Farmall 140 and a corn picker? in reply to Jeff0253, 01-25-2017 06:13:03  
No way they just would not sell first the price would be very high and there is just no demand. Plenty of one row pickers out there they dont bring much money at a sale even two row ones dont bring much. Your tractor will pull one if the wagon isnt huge and you are picking 100 bu corn. Remember they were produced before high populations were available so their capicity isnt that huge.



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Janicholson

01-25-2017 06:37:03




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 Re: Farmall 140 and a corn picker? in reply to Jeff0253, 01-25-2017 06:13:03  
I believe the market is saturated with good to very good used pickers. From 1000 to 10,000, they are on the lot. Jim



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Jeff0253

01-25-2017 13:46:58




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 Re: Farmall 140 and a corn picker? in reply to Janicholson, 01-25-2017 06:37:03  
Janicholson, you must be right. I imagine that if there were a market, some company would jump on it. I bet they still make them in India and China though. They make stationary threshers over there :-)



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Pembroke

01-25-2017 05:24:26




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 Re: Farmall 140 and a corn picker? in reply to Jeff0253, 01-24-2017 14:12:53  
My vote: Go for the 300 and you're on your way to being a collector of IH tractors. Plus it will do a great job of pulling your picker and wagon. Pembroke



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BarnyardEngineering

01-25-2017 05:08:36




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 Re: Farmall 140 and a corn picker? in reply to Jeff0253, 01-24-2017 14:12:53  
If you've got the H to pull the rig around on a chain, why not just run the picker with the H?

I'm alluding to fastfarmall's suggestion here. I know you don't have an H to pull the picker with.



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FastFarmall

01-25-2017 10:45:29




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 Re: Farmall 140 and a corn picker? in reply to BarnyardEngineering, 01-25-2017 05:08:36  
I thought it might be a mounted picker on the 140,



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Jeff0253

01-25-2017 13:30:26




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 Re: Farmall 140 and a corn picker? in reply to FastFarmall, 01-25-2017 10:45:29  
Sorry FastFarmall, I should have been more clear. It's a one-row New Idea model 323. Personally, I've never liked mounted pickers. Too many gears, chains, sprockets, etc, turning two feet away. Also, the guys I've known who had them said that the mounted ones do a slightly better job, but they are apparently hard to hitch up. To each his own, I guess!



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PretendFarmer

01-25-2017 04:52:13




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 Re: Farmall 140 and a corn picker? in reply to Jeff0253, 01-24-2017 14:12:53  
OH and the 140 should have more power than a C and super C in stock form as well. Super C and C would have traction advantage but some weight would help that.



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PretendFarmer

01-25-2017 04:50:04




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 Re: Farmall 140 and a corn picker? in reply to Jeff0253, 01-24-2017 14:12:53  
Farmall 140 first gear is slower than A/SA/100/130 first gear. So out of the other cultivision tractors, the 140 would be the most ideal I would think.

If you wanted to buy another tractor look for an H with a low first gear, it will have a serial ending in X1A. I think X1G is slow first and fast fourth but I have only ever seen one of those. X1A H's are common and can be had for under $1000 running and driving.

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bmd

01-24-2017 20:26:26




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 Re: Farmall 140 and a corn picker? in reply to Jeff0253, 01-24-2017 14:12:53  
Jeff
We used a Farmall 100 to pull a one row picker and wagon back when I was growing up. Used 1st gear and I'm sure the wagon was small by today's standards but it got the job done eventually for about 10 to 15 acres. Have no idea of the bushels per acre back then.

Relatively flat land in central NC.

BMD



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dgoodman2

01-24-2017 20:10:43




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 Re: Farmall 140 and a corn picker? in reply to Jeff0253, 01-24-2017 14:12:53  
We used a single row picker and a wagon behind a SUPER A for decades. About 40 acres a year. Not any more load than a square hay bailer.



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Cmore

01-24-2017 18:34:47




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 Re: Farmall 140 and a corn picker? in reply to Jeff0253, 01-24-2017 14:12:53  
You'll have no problems!! Even with a full wagon with 100 bu or so in the wagon. Did it for years with a Super C... even in soft ground and some mud!!! Go for it... Cmore



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FastFarmall

01-24-2017 17:45:18




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 Re: Farmall 140 and a corn picker? in reply to Jeff0253, 01-24-2017 14:12:53  
Jeff, what you could do if, 1st gear is too fast, and too big a load, if it a rear elevator on it, attach the wagon, put another tractor on front like a H, attach a nylon rope or chain with a old tire in the middle for some cushion, that way the 140 just has to run the picker, and the the guy on the H can throttle back to a idle if necessary !



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Jeff0253

01-24-2017 17:58:57




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 Re: Farmall 140 and a corn picker? in reply to FastFarmall, 01-24-2017 17:45:18  
Thanks for the suggestion, FastFarmall. The backstory to this is that I currently own a good solid 140. I've pretty much decided to grow some feed corn next summer. If I have to, I can buy another tractor, but if I can get away with just the 140, that would, of course, be easier (and less costly). If I do end up getting another tractor, I will go ahead and go for a Super H, a 300, something big enough to do it by itself. However, I will definitely keep what you said in mind!

Thanks,

Jeff

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Cmore

01-24-2017 16:11:50




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 Re: Farmall 140 and a corn picker? in reply to Jeff0253, 01-24-2017 14:12:53  
No problem. If a Super C will do it why wouldn't a 140?? Go for it!! Cmore



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Jeff0253

01-24-2017 18:00:24




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 Re: Farmall 140 and a corn picker? in reply to Cmore, 01-24-2017 16:11:50  
Thanks CMore,very encouraging! Luckily I have until summer to think about it!



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Jim Becker

01-24-2017 14:47:48




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 Re: Farmall 140 and a corn picker? in reply to Jeff0253, 01-24-2017 14:12:53  
A level field with solid ground would give you a fair chance. Even so, you would find yourself having to stop with a partial wagon load.



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Janicholson

01-24-2017 14:15:38




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 Re: Farmall 140 and a corn picker? in reply to Jeff0253, 01-24-2017 14:12:53  
Not and the wagon to catch it. In reality it would need to be 50 Bu to the acre. Jim



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Jeff0253

01-24-2017 15:35:05




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 Re: Farmall 140 and a corn picker? in reply to Janicholson, 01-24-2017 14:15:38  
Thanks Guys! It's a level and well-drained field. The trailer is shorter, lighter, and has lower side stakes than normal ones do.I'd say the yield will be somewhere from 40 to 70 BPA.



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